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    this piece is played by Dave Carlson from his album Carlson plays the Classics originally released in the 1950s on HiFi Records - unfortunately they put the wrong title on the piece. My company wants to reissue this album on iTunes but we need the track title of this piece to complete the process.

    Can anyone identify this? I will hook you up with this pretty damn good album for helping out.
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    This is baffling! The rogue piece in the listing for the album seems to be 'Etude in D flat'. Although this waltz-like piece IS in D flat, it's not Chopin's famous Etude Op 25 No 8 (Sixths) or his 'Minute' Waltz (also in D flat), nor any etude in D flat that I know. It sounds a little like Chopin, but has me completely stumped. I hope someone comes up with your answer!

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    unfortunately the original album jacket track listing is completely off so it really can't be used as a guide in solving this as 5 of the songs that are supposed be on the LP (according to the jacket) are just not on there and instead there are 3 pieces that were not listed; 2 of which I have been able to identify except of course for this one last piece. Maybe it is an Etude in D flat that Carlson composed himself although that wouldn't make sense given the other songs on the album are popular classical pieces as the title suggests. I will post the actual track listing when I'm at work tomorrow although I don't feel it will be of any help. This is going to have to be identified by ear. Hopefully someone out there knows what it is. It was suggested to me that maybe the piece is something from a movie score from the 40s or 50s. One of the other unlisted songs that i was able to identify turned out to be Warsaw Concerto by Addinsell which is from the 1941 film Dangerous Moonlight so that could be possible. Another person I played the piece for like you thought it sounded like Chopin.

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    There are no songs on the album. Songs are sung by singers and (usually) have words. It bothers me when the word 'song' is randomly and incorrectly to describe any piece of music (except songs, of course!).

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    ha ha, true. they are pieces not songs - sorry for my bad language. I'm new to the classical world!

    Anyway here is the true track listing from the LP. The piece in question cannot be Etude in D Flat because that is the second piece on the LP:


    Polonaise In A Flat, Op. 53 "Heroic" (Frederic Chopin)
    Etude In D Flat (Franz Liszt)
    Revolutionary Etude (Frederic Chopin)
    Jeux D'Eau ( Maurice Ravel)
    Warsaw Concerto (Richard Addinsell)
    Gnomenreigen (Franz Liszt)
    Impromptu Fantaisie (Frederic Chopin)
    Unknown Piece
    Scherzo No.2 In B Flat Minor, Op. 31 (Frederic Chopin)
    Last edited by todd82769; Sep-30-2010 at 17:40. Reason: more info

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    That piece is definitely not Chopin. It is a much later work. Try googling the artist and go to videos and see if he is playing it.

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    this artist is way too obscure to have any videos. Last known recording was in 1959. Some experts I've played this for over the phone seem to think it's an original composition.

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    Very cool piece. There's a lot of popular music style harmony and 20s/30s jazz piano stylings in the first half. Kind of highly sophisticated tinpan alley with a hint of virtuouso improvisation over a simpler melody. The central section sounds like slightly jazz Debussy/Ravel. I must say I have no idea what this work could be, other than it is probably "American"; maybe chasing up some original compositions by someone like Art Tatum may be productive? If you suspect it may be Dave Carlson's own composition, I would see if I could find any other pieces by or improvised/interpreted by him. Short of that, I think it's going to take someone a lot more familiar with light American piano music than I to crack this nut.

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    Why does the mp3 id tag show "Dance of Terror" as the title?

    That got me to thinking and hunting and I found this link:
    http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...3:kjfpxbq5ldfe

    There is a little speaker icon that gives a snippet of the piece. It's too late at night for my ears to tell, but are there similarities in the chords, if not the rhythm? I don't know. The link suggests it might be Manuel de Falla, but I can find no composition by him entitled "Dance of Terror."

    The style is not one I would have any experience with.

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    The ID tag says Dance of Terror because that is how it was listed on the original LP which like I posted above was completely mislabeled. Dance Of Terror is a part of Manuel de Falla's El Amor Bruja. I have listened to that and hear nothing that would lead me to believe that is what this piece is.

    Responding to Falstaft's post: I played the piece for the International Piano Archive at U. of Maryland and they said exactly the same thing as you. They directed me to a piano player/historian
    named Alex Hassan who specializes in that kind of 20/30's Tin Pan Alley piano playing and he is pretty convinced it is an original composition.
    Last edited by todd82769; Oct-01-2010 at 14:30. Reason: typo

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    I ABSOLUTELY know what this piece is. It is David's arrangement of Lee Sims' composition, Similitude. I see the album was remastered with this track being identified as "Untitled Original". David Carlson is my husband, still alive and still playing gorgeously and better than ever. You should hear him now. Here's a recent article about this obscure pianist:

    http://www.dailyastorian.com/free/pi...a4bcf887a.html
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