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    How about the best 'Sturm und Drang' symphonies. Similar to Haydn and CPE Bach.

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    Still my favorite type of Symphonies.

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    My favourite cd right now is Musik från frihetstiden (Music from the age of liberty) which contains 9 symphonies from 5 swedish composers in the mid 18th century.
    Among them are 4 of the 6 symphonies, opus 1 by Johan Agrell.
    There is also one from the amateur composer Arvid Niclas von Höpken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post


    I am digging the franticness in the development section of the 1st mvt.

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    Pavel Vranický, aka Paul Wranitzky: Symphony in C minor Op. 31, "Grand Characteristic Symphony for the Peace with the French Republic." Very dramatic! He did like long titles though.

    Beethoven liked him as a conductor.


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    @BaronAlstromer, the 1st one is very nice, more early in style. The next one is very early Haydn or Dittersdorf sounding, its actually very nice now that I hear some of the later sections. Gentle sounding but I also like the sort of sequences that almost sound more late classicist in parts.

    I think this music is very baroque infused! I like it, very blurring of lines.

    Have you heard Johann Melchoir Molter's symphonies?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8Xy03XFws

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    @KenOC, the Wranitzky I'm listening to. Its also very interesting, lots of light business and intriguing developments. It manages a more grand sound in parts, as one would hope based on the title. I like it. The section with the prominent winds is an enjoyable contrast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clavichorder View Post
    @KenOC, the Wranitzky I'm listening to. Its also very interesting, lots of light business and intriguing developments. It manages a more grand sound in parts, as one would hope based on the title. I like it.
    Wait for the cannons at the end. Tchaikovsky's got nothing on this guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clavichorder View Post
    @BaronAlstromer, the 1st one is very nice, more early in style. The next one is very early Haydn or Dittersdorf sounding, its actually very nice now that I hear some of the later sections. Gentle sounding but I also like the sort of sequences that almost sound more late classicist in parts.

    I think this music is very baroque infused! I like it, very blurring of lines.

    Have you heard Johann Melchoir Molter's symphonies?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8Xy03XFws
    I haven´t heard much of Molter yet, as I am very new to classical music.
    The Agrell symphonies are believed to be composed as early as the 1730s when he worked at the court in Hesse-Kassel.

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    Dittersdorf is a composer I never quite got a feel for until hearing this. Really enjoyable, heroic symphony (with a fittingly grand title) and rich with counterpoint. Seems to anticipate Méhul and Beethoven in a lot of ways.

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    Wagenseil's symphonies have been of particular interest to me lately. Early classical works with a distinctly Baroque flavor--while I realize that that is not so unique, I like Wagenseil's peculiar style.


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    I like that symphony quite a bit, thanks for posting it. Baroque and classical era styles when merged, can produce very excellent results and it is easy to think that the Bach sons had the monopoly on that. It seems like there were many ways to bridge the two eras. Franz Xaver Richter is another who did this. Its so hard to characterize these composers too, since they just seemed to do a variety of things. I assume there are stylistic patterns that happen.

    Great baroque style dissonance in that piece, much perfectly functional 'imperfection' happening in a very wholesome way.

    I encountered Wagenseil's name a while ago and was very impressed with this piece of his that was called a sonata but was played with a 'Sackbut' quartet(funny early trombone thing).

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    I forgot how great Mozart's Haffner Symphony is! I remember listening to it as a little kid.

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