Wagner Vs. Others
Hi All:
this is my first post and I am happy to discuss my issue. I started listening opera when I was 8, Verdi and Puccini. I quickly fell in love with Puccini and bell canto. Now, at my 50's I am totally fanatic of Wagner, Strauss, Puccini, Bizet, Leoncavallo, Mascagni, etc, but I can't stand Mozart, just very little Verdi (Otello)...and that', it. I wonder if anyone had same experience in Opera.
Why don't you try the thread offered by this great Forum which is specifically devoted to opera, then?Originally Posted by Gustavbf
Whatever floats your boat
Indeed, I believe it's located here.
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Great enthusiasm! I particularly admire Strauss and Puccini, Leoncavallo and Mascagni, and the Verdi 'Otello' is a masterpiece, but I also love Mozart - La Nozze di Figaro, and Don Giovanni, particularly. Those two operas are Italian operas... just 18th century ones by an Austrian!
well :-)
mozart is for realised spirits, bethoven for academics, pucini for artists, verdi for weekend, wagner for mentals, strauss for oscar price, shopen for kung fu, bach for monks and budhists, ..... Liszt for hackers
Then tell me, what's Ligeti for?
The people who you think are radicals might really be conservatives,
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Welcome!
I have strong doubts that you may not be as fanatical about Wagner as Couchie is, but it's good to see more memebers fanatical about a particular composer. I am a big fan of Ligeti. You heard of a wonderful opera called Le Grand Macabre?
The people who you think are radicals might really be conservatives,
The people who you think are conservative might really be radical.
Morton Feldman
Though i believe myself being as a what you would called a wagnerian (as a Wagner fan), i hear them all of those with no complexes. I listen Mascagni and Leoncavallo the lesser. I think Verismo, of all operatic genres i know, is the least for me (Puccini isn't a true Verist).
What i always do is never to compare composers. If one, before beginning the opera, has set his mind to compare with with Wagner's, it becomes an inglourious quest. Enjoy them instead for what they and how they, in their field, presented to us based on opera's premises. It is much better. Whether you like it by your own thoughts without the vigorous "castration" power of Wagner, is a judgement by yourself.
Mozart is better than Wagner.
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Then tell me, what's Ligeti for?
Do you really want an answer?
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Why do you dislike Ligeti?Then tell me, what's Ligeti for?
Do you really want an answer?
(Thread moved from "Classical Music Discussion" sub-forum to "Opera" sub-forum.)
Partly because, at the urging of SOME WHO SHALL REMAIN UN-NAMED, I listened to some of his work
I was wondering about those earlier posts lol
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