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Thread: Maestro Karl Bohm , if I may.

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    No excuses loaded with ifs and assurances need be made for Bohm's repertoire and legacy.

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    I've seen the following CD of Beethoven's 6th and Schubert's 5th recommended a few times on this forum, and the Amazon reviewers rate it highly. These performances may be the best of both symphonies I've heard thus far.



    His Mozart 41 is excellent. However, I do not like his recordings of the earlier/middle ones and I prefer Marriner and Mackerras for those.
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    Don't like Böhm. Racist little bugger. And takes Mozart and Beethoven too slow. Doesn't bring out the character if the music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    Don't like Böhm. Racist little bugger. And takes Mozart and Beethoven too slow. Doesn't bring out the character if the music.
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    Best Beethoven 6th I've ever heard.

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    He was best at Strauss for some reason. He takes more liberty with Strauss' scores than with the standard repertoire.
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    I've always liked Bohm's Mozart symphonies. But then, I like Karl Richter's Bach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webernite View Post
    I like Karl Richter's Bach.
    The aim of music is not to express feelings but to express music. It is not a vessel into which the composer distills his soul drop by drop, but a labyrinth with no beginning and no end, full of new paths to discover, where mystery remains eternal.
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    I LIKE VON KARAJAN'S BACH! Deal with it!

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    Did Karajan even do Bach? Oh wait he did, just sounded like Brahms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    I LIKE VON KARAJAN'S BACH! Deal with it!
    i like it too.

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    Recently, I've had something of a Böhm fit. I've been listening to his Brahms cycle, the Bruckner 4 and 7, and the late Schubert and Mozart symphonies.

    What I feel is that his recordings tend to be rather flat - in the best possible sense. Objective might be a more friendly term. Everything sounds really clean and straightforward. Boring? I guess that, despising sentimentality as Böhm apparently did, there's a very thin line between doing too much and doing too little.

    There's a documentary on Youtube on him, very interesting but rather uncritical. Doesn't mention the war except for the destruction of the Vienna Opera House. About Böhm himself, it is merely said that "he was not a member of any party". That was it.

    I also had no idea that he was apparently good friends with Alban Berg and Richard Strauss, who even dedicated an opera to him. I wonder if conductors like Böhm or Karajan, who personally knew the composers of that time, arguably the last great period of Austro-German romantic and modern music, who had a direct grasp at least on the tailend of that whole era, have something, know something, that those who've come later cannot make up for.

    Rehearsal footage of Böhm is intriguing as well, showing both his capacity for scorn as well as his sharp ear and insistance on absolute precision.
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    Haven't heard that much from him but I adore his Mozart Requiem and Haydn Die Jahreszeiten. I find the former very solemn and the latter very earthy.
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    His Mozart is hard to listen to. He could be the Poster Boy for what the HIPP movement was rebelling against. I like his Beethoven cycle, for the most part. His real strength was the late German Romantics, particularly Richard Strauss. To bad his Anti Semitism prevented him from delving deeply into Mahler.

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    Bohm was a fine, solid conductor of the German repertoire.
    He excelled as an opera conductor, especially in Mozart.
    I have no complaints.
    Last edited by hpowders; Sep-19-2014 at 17:56.
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