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    cd and dvd.
    under rated opera, i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    cd and dvd.
    under rated opera, i think.
    I'm assuming you're referring to Mefistofele by Arrigo Boito? If so it's certainly not under rated by me. I think it's an absolutely fabulous opera which I never get tired of listening to/watching.

    I have these CDs - both excellent but I prefer the Ramey & Eva Marton sings exquisitely.



    and this DVD



    I think this production was created especially for Samuel Ramey & I've played it so often, my copy's in danger of wearing out.

    It's my dream to see this live one day.
    Ann

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    thank you, i think it's great too.

    i was also looking at the Rudel, Muti and Serafin recordings. Many to choose from, huh?

    Are you familiar with Nerone at all? thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    thank you, i think it's great too.

    i was also looking at the Rudel, Muti and Serafin recordings. Many to choose from, huh?
    Yes! I haven't heard any others apart from the two I pictured above. But I have to confess I am tempted to get this one because I adore Cesare Siepi.





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    Are you familiar with Nerone at all? thank you
    Yes. I bought this version second hand from the ROH shop. I like it very much but I don't know whether I like it because it's good or because it's Boito, who I worship.

    Ann

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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    Yes! I haven't heard any others apart from the two I pictured above. But I have to confess I am tempted to get this one because I adore Cesare Siepi.







    Yes. I bought this version second hand from the ROH shop. I like it very much but I don't know whether I like it because it's good or because it's Boito, who I worship.

    Because it's good. I heard it on the radio once and it's stuck in my brain.

    What's your Boito worship based on? these operas and his libretti or other. thanks.

    the thing i'm always concerned with on recordings is cuts. i hate them. i hope they're all complete. thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post

    What's your Boito worship based on? these operas and his libretti or other.
    It's because of his collaboration with Verdi - who is my favourite composer

    Boito was one of the first benefactors of the Casa di Riposo per Musicisti otherwise known as Casa Verdi




    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    the thing i'm always concerned with on recordings is cuts. i hate them. i hope they're all complete.
    If you buy them from Amazon & you're not satisfied, send them back
    Ann

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    thank you, i think it's great too.

    i was also looking at the Rudel, Muti and Serafin recordings. Many to choose from, huh?

    Are you familiar with Nerone at all? thank you
    I have the Rudel recording. Treigle is fantastic. I also have a CD of a live performance from 1964 wit Bergonzi, Ghiaurov and Raian Kabaivanska conducted by Gianandrea Gavazzeni. No indication where it was done. I only regret that Jerome Hines never recorded it. No DVD as yet
    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneBaroque View Post
    I have the Rudel recording. Treigle is fantastic.
    This one?




    Quote Originally Posted by GoneBaroque View Post
    I also have a CD of a live performance from 1964 wit Bergonzi, Ghiaurov and Raian Kabaivanska conducted by Gianandrea Gavazzeni. No indication where it was done. I only regret that Jerome Hines never recorded it. No DVD as yet
    Aaarrgghh!! Please no more recommendations!
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    And the Muti got rave reviews, too.

    http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...62&name_role=3

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    check this out

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3Tm3l3PuJPk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    can't embed here?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tm3l...eature=related
    Last edited by Itullian; Nov-11-2011 at 22:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Thanks. Will have a look at that later


    Copy the YouTube address, click on the little movie strip icon & paste

    Ann

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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    Yes! I haven't heard any others apart from the two I pictured above. But I have to confess I am tempted to get this one because I adore Cesare Siepi.







    Yes. I bought this version second hand from the ROH shop. I like it very much but I don't know whether I like it because it's good or because it's Boito, who I worship.

    I do have Nerone...I think the same version...sung in Hungarian...brrrrrr.

    I love Mefisto, I have the Pavarotti's version on CD and I don't remember the DVD but it's not exciting..

    Martin

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    I have the Del Monaco, Tebaldi and Siepi cd and i have seen the DVD/Video with Samuel Ramey. Both are pretty good. In the cd Del Monaco reins in his normal 'forte' style of singing and i think is on his best behaviour here. Siepi is as dark voiced as ever, singing beautifully. The DVD is fairly old now and parts of the staging are a little odd. The ending is spectactular. There were some reservations about Denns O'neill. I have seen him many times with Welsh National Opera and enjoyed his singing very much (mainly verisimo) but on the DVD he seems wooden and a little stretched.

    The one cd i would recommend is highlights with Di Stefano and Siepi. I have never seen it out as a full version cd. It is superb and i would recommend it as first choice.

    The Muti cd with the sadly recently departed Vincenzo la Scola and Michelle Crider, well it got some good and bad reviews. I listened to it in the shop and did not like it. Something with the sound as i recall. Maybe try before you buy if possible.

    Its a fantastic opera badly served in cd and DVD (2 i think). I guess we are waiting for a 'best' version still

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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    This one?






    Aaarrgghh!! Please no more recommendations!
    Yes, that is the one I meant.
    Rob

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    This website has a page that compares 11 different renditions of "Son lo spirito che nega" : http://medicine-opera.com/2014/03/so...rito-che-nega/

    For good measure, a 12th (Norman Treigle) can be accessed through this one: http://medicine-opera.com/2014/03/re...k-mefistofele/

    (The blogger, one Neil Kurtzman, really knows his operas, but I'm not sure how far to trust his medical info, and his politics are somewhere off in right field. So I only read his posts on opera.)

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