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    Anyone want a great live Lohengrin?



    This is 1954 live Jochum from Bayreuth in amazingly good sound.....no kidding the sound is really very good. Cast is best of the best from that period with young Birgit Nilsson coming on the Wagner scence as Elsa, Astrid Varnay is a supremely evil Ortrud.....on and on great cast

    Itullian are you listening, we can add this to the shelf right next to our other favorite live Lohengrin also with Astrid Varnay:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    Anyone want a great live Lohengrin?



    This is 1954 live Jochum from Bayreuth in amazingly good sound.....no kidding the sound is really very good. Cast is best of the best from that period with young Birgit Nilsson coming on the Wagner scence as Elsa, Astrid Varnay is a supremely evil Ortrud.....on and on great cast

    Itullian are you listening, we can add this to the shelf right next to our other favorite live Lohengrin also with Astrid Varnay:


    thank you.............

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    Anyone have the Keilberth Lohengrin with Windgassen, Varnay, Steber, etc...? Amazon is marketing the download for less than $3 US and the CD is currently below $20.

    The disc is Available on a rather generic label I'm unfamiliar with... or on Naxos historic through Amazon.UK. Anyone familiar with shipping and handling charges from the UK? I also note that some US Amazon dealers in the US have the disc listed on the Amazon.UK site but not Amazon.com. Is there some legal nonsense behind the reason they can't sell these in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio View Post
    The disc is Available on a rather generic label I'm unfamiliar with... or on Naxos historic through Amazon.UK. Anyone familiar with shipping and handling charges from the UK? I also note that some US Amazon dealers in the US have the disc listed on the Amazon.UK site but not Amazon.com. Is there some legal nonsense behind the reason they can't sell these in the US?
    EU countries recognize 50 years copyright for musicians before becoming public domain, USA has longer period so Naxos etc cannot sell some new historical CDs here, but we can buy used here or new from EU shipped over here.

    EU just passed law to extend musician copyright to 70 years in process of being implemented......this was not done to protect classical artists most of whom are now dead, but early Beatles, Rolling Stones, Who etc albums were about to become public domain so they took action

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_958827.html
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    Meistersinger.............that is all

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    Going through a phase of listening/watching Wagners Der Flieglende Hollander. I watched/listened to it the first time about 15yrs ago and neglected it since. But since the new DVD from the Netherlands Opera -it has caught my interest again. The new DVD is stunning!

    CD wise, i have only got the Naxos cd with Alfred Muff as a solid Dutchman and Peter Seiffert as Erik. The conductor is someone unknown to me Pinchas Steinberg. This set has very good reviews but the sound seems a bit backward and i want a bit more fire and drama...maybe colour from the orchestra. I think this is an issue with many of those Naxos opera recordings actually.

    Anyone have a CD of this they recommend?

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    Actually i want the Chandos English version with John Tomlinson as the Dutchman, i bet he is terrific! Anyone care to comment about this set?

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    I've always preferred Nelsson's Bayreuth Dutchman. Good cast and lots of energy.

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    i love the 24bit version of Solti's Dutchman. a very exciting reading and the remaster is spectacular. it's hard to find and easily confused with the non remastered version.
    i think arkivmusic has it.

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    Just watching the Valencia Walkure (I recorded it off Sky Arts HD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    Good guess.....combine these two sets in one big super deluxe boxset?




    Danny has his own complete "cheap" boxset:

    Looks like that's what is happening. Good price

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-The-O...158366&sr=8-14

    Decca have also reissued Solti's Tristan with that horrible new artwork that they use for reissues these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS View Post
    Looks like that's what is happening. Good price

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-The-O...158366&sr=8-14

    Decca have also reissued Solti's Tristan with that horrible new artwork that they use for reissues these days
    Is that... real? All 10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS View Post
    Looks like that's what is happening. Good price

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-The-O...158366&sr=8-14

    Decca have also reissued Solti's Tristan with that horrible new artwork that they use for reissues these days
    Omg that made me.........
    It's the greed of huge companies and huge organizations which control life in a kind of a brutal way ... It's gotten worse and worse, somehow, because physical science has given us more and more terrible deadly weapons, and the human spirit has been destroyed in so many cases, so what's the use of having the most powerful country in the world if we have killed the soul.
    ~Hovhaness

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    I believe its the first Meistersinger Solti recorded and not the 90s recording so its not quite the same as the old box

    Also no word yet as to the remastering that's being used in the box

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS View Post
    I believe its the first Meistersinger Solti recorded and not the 90s recording so its not quite the same as the old box

    Also no word yet as to the remastering that's being used in the box
    Yes, Solti recorded Meistersinger in the 70s. I believe this new box set selected the newer 1990s recording, which is widely available in different re-issues.

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