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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS View Post
    I believe its the first Meistersinger Solti recorded and not the 90s recording so its not quite the same as the old box

    Also no word yet as to the remastering that's being used in the box
    All hail the king...

    That is now "the" wagner boxset, 36 CDs.....because price is so low expect minimal booklet with libretto on PDF files, sept 2012 release

    One element of suspense, which Meistersinger will be in here?
    I think I read somewhere where Solti preferred the later CSO performance so we shall see




    There are a whole series of Solti boxsets being released, I would also be interested with Verdi boxset
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    These box sets have yet to show up on Amazon.com (in the US). I'd certainly be interested in the Wagner and perhaps the Richard Strauss set. I can live without notes and libretto as I already have these in other recordings. Now if only they'd do something similar with Keilberth.
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    i'm betting its his 2nd Meistersinger which was in his Solti Edition set. its marginally better overall.

    What a fantastic box set though. too bad i already have them all.

    anyone know the price?
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    been listening alot to Kleibers Tristan on DGG. i really like it alot.

    no side breaks during the acts makes a huge positive.

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    There is more......a super deluxe limited edition Solti Ring set, see video:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Nibel...659274-9225130

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    i'm betting its his 2nd Meistersinger which was in his Solti Edition set. its marginally better overall.

    What a fantastic box set though. too bad i already have them all.

    anyone know the price?
    Amazon uk are listing it at £81.83 currently, which is a great price - a shame I also have them all (I paid more than that for a 2nd hand Tristan)

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    relistened to the Barenboim ring cds. Does not hold up well. bad tempi, out of control brass and irritating recording problems/drop outs. and some bad singing.

    think i'll sell 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    relistened to the Barenboim ring cds. Does not hold up well. bad tempi, out of control brass and irritating recording problems/drop outs. and some bad singing.

    think i'll sell 'em.
    I been watching the new remastered Barenboim Ring DVDs and like them less and less as time goes on, despite old age the Levine and Boulez hold up better on DVD for me, too many sterile empty stage sets and Wotan does not appeal to me with silly one lens sunglasses......started strong with the opening Rheingold maidens frolicing in the laser mist, that was impressive, also too many people with red hair in this production

    The new Mehta Ring blu ray despite some silliness and less than apealing singers/costumes is very compelling visually with some well thought out abstract visuals

    Perhaps the current MET Ring if released on blu ray will be my reference to date......welcome to the machine
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    just listened to Solti's Parsifal twice. it gets no better than this.

    full, warm, clear recording. The best singing of all studio sets.

    and Solti paces just right.

    better singers, recording than Karajan.
    much better singers recording than Kubelik.
    barenboim is out of the running forme with a recording with a far too exagerated dynamic range.
    the Vienna phil play like gods on the Solti too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    just listened to Solti's Parsifal twice. it gets no better than this.

    full, warm, clear recording. The best singing of all studio sets.

    and Solti paces just right.

    better singers, recording than Karajan.
    much better singers recording than Kubelik.
    barenboim is out of the running forme with a recording with a far too exagerated dynamic range.
    the Vienna phil play like gods on the Solti too.
    If I was foolish enough to buy that Solti 36cd boxset it would be because I don't have his Parsifal and Tristan
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post

    Perhaps the current MET Ring if released on blu ray will be my reference to date......welcome to the machine
    It will apparently be released on 11. September

    http://www.amazon.com/Wagner-Der-Rin...rhf_gw_p_img_1

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    Quote Originally Posted by checco View Post
    It will apparently be released on 11. September

    http://www.amazon.com/Wagner-Der-Rin...rhf_gw_p_img_1
    That didn't take long......it is in my Amazon wish list for future purchase, the machine will be mine!

    I see this is a 5 disc blu ray set, perhaps we have comprehensive libretto and behind the scences documentaries disc 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    If I was foolish enough to buy that Solti 36cd boxset it would be because I don't have his Parsifal and Tristan
    Its calling you DA. Isee it in your future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    just listened to Solti's Parsifal twice. it gets no better than this.

    full, warm, clear recording. The best singing of all studio sets.

    and Solti paces just right.

    better singers, recording than Karajan.
    much better singers recording than Kubelik.
    barenboim is out of the running forme with a recording with a far too exagerated dynamic range.
    the Vienna phil play like gods on the Solti too.
    Some criticisms I have of Solti conducting Wagner, maybe he does this with all composers;

    He emphasises the moment too much and sacrifices the long line. This is achieved by exaggerating dynamic and tempo changes. He also balances the brass far too loudly for my tastes.

    This works in some operas I feel, like Tannhauser, but certainly not in Parsifal. Give me Kubelick any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emiellucifuge View Post
    He emphasises the moment too much
    Impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by emiellucifuge View Post
    exaggerating dynamic and tempo changes.
    Impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by emiellucifuge View Post
    brass far too loud
    Impossible.
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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