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    1. Wand/NDR SO 1987
    2. Fricsay/Berliner Phil. 1958
    3. Böhm/Wiener Phil. 1972?
    4. Furtwängler/Philharmonia Orch. (Lucerne festival) 1954
    5. Furtwängler/Bayreuth 1951
    6. Furtwängler/BPO 1942
    7. Szell/Cleveland 1961
    8. Blomstedt/ Staatskapelle Dresden 1980
    9. Cluytens/BPO late 50's
    10. Leibowitz/Royal PO 1961

    Next in line to hear is Kletzki/Czech PO 1968(?). From what I have read it will most likely rock my boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discobole View Post
    About Abbado, I would certainly not choose this version (not the studio, and not the live in Rome either), but he has recorded another one, live in Salzburg 1996, with the Berliner Philharmoniker and the absolute dream team of singers : Jane Eaglen, Waltraud Meier, Ben Heppner and Bryn Terfel !

    Since I know this interpretation it is my absolute modern reference. By "modern" I mean it cannot, of course, replace interpretations by Furtwängler for instance, or Karajan's classic 1962 studio and 1963 live recordings, or Fricsay's. But among recent, digital recordings I rank it first, before other versions I sometimes admire (Harnoncourt, Gardiner) or more frequently (alas) hate.
    Not only do I recommend it without hesitation, but I urge every lover of this symphony to know this version. It is really exceptionnaly beautifully played and sung, but also played and conducted with fire (of course a little more polished than Furtwângler, but still exceptional for today's habits), and the recording quality is astonishing.



    Apart from that, as it was the initial question, I have and know around 50 versions of the symphony, so I'll pass posting a complete list...
    Well, dream team or not, do you know how many copies was this particular Abbado B9 sold worldwide during the year of its release? Less than 1000!!

    I read it somewhere in a magazine about the decline of classical music, and this disc was singled out as an example of over-recording of a well-known, well-recorded repertoire, in a saturated market.

    Abbado, at that time, was no Karajan,and the author question why he has to record B9 the third time.

    I had that disc before, and it is true: pretty blend approach with no special point. No better than his 80s Vienna version, or the 2000s newer live recording (DVD).

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    Audio (Vinyl and CD) :

    Felix Weingartner, Wiener Philharmoniker, 1935
    Bruno Walter, New York Philharmonic, 1949
    Wilhelm Furtwängler, Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, 1951
    Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 1952
    Herbert von Karajan, Berliner Philharmoniker, 1972
    Herbert von Karajan, Berliner Philharmoniker, 1983
    Walter Weller, Birmangham Symphony, 1989

    On VHS :

    Herbert von Karajan, Berliner Philharmoniker, 1977

    On DVD :

    Herbert von Karajan, Berliner Philharmoniker, 1983
    Il y a de grandes flaques de sang sur le monde/ Où s'en va-t-il tout ce sang répandu (Chanson dans le sang - Jacques Prévert)

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    My recordings are as follows (in order of when I acquired them):

    • Josef Krips, London Symphony Orchestra
      Jennifer Vyvyan, Rudolf Petrak, Donald Bell, Shirley Carter & BBC Symphony Chorus
      (1960)
    • Jansug Kakhidze, Tbilisi Symphony Orchestra
      Naira Nachkhatashvili, Tamaz Tseriashvili, Natalia Volchenko, Giya Assatiani & SIMI Studio Choir
      (Year unknown)
    • Karl Böhm, Wiener Philharmoniker
      Jessye Norman, Brigitte Fassbaender, Plácido Domingo, Walter Barry & Konzertvereinigung Wiener Staatsopernchor
      (1980)
    • Bernard Haitink, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
      Lucia Popp, Carolyn Watkinson, Peter Schreier, Robert Holl & Netherlands Radio Chorus
      (1987)

    • Sir Charles Mackerras, Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra
      Joan Rodgers, Della Jones, Peter Bronder, Bryn Terfel & Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Choir
      (1991)


    My favourite is Bernard Haitink's recording (which was somewhat difficult to find), although it is not without its shortcomings, but the soloists and the choir is simply on fire in the finale!

    Next on my list of ninths to purchase is Fricsay's 1958 recording, which, from what I've heard, sounds marvelous.
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    After several more additions, here is my collection of Ninths:

    1. Stokowski 1934
    2. Weingartner 1935
    3. Klemperer 1956
    4. Fricsay 1958
    5. Munch 1958
    6. Walter 1959
    7. Reiner 1961
    8. Szell 1961
    9. Monteau 1962
    10. Leinsdorf 1969
    11. Masur 1974
    12. Karajan 1977
    13. Maazel 1978
    14. Blomstedt 1980
    15. Solti 1984
    16. Blomstedt 1985
    17. Norrington 1987
    18. Duvier 1990
    19. Harnoncourt 1991
    20. Zander 1992
    21. Gardiner 1992
    22. Zinman 1994
    23. Drahos 1996
    24. Herreweghe 1998
    25. Kofman
    26. Torre 2006

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    Leppard 1994
    Abbado 1995
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    The Monteau Ninth is a two CD set where the second CD has the 5th and a 25 minute rehearsal session of the Ninth.

    My favorite is Fricsay, but the Szell I just picked up today is very nice, just listened to the 4th movement and the vocals are wonderful and very clear. This one could be right up there with Fricsay for me. We'll see.

    Others that I favor include the 1980 Blomstedt Ninth, Maazel, and Masur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerbooks View Post
    Well, dream team or not, do you know how many copies was this particular Abbado B9 sold worldwide during the year of its release? Less than 1000!!

    I read it somewhere in a magazine about the decline of classical music, and this disc was singled out as an example of over-recording of a well-known, well-recorded repertoire, in a saturated market.

    Abbado, at that time, was no Karajan,and the author question why he has to record B9 the third time.

    I had that disc before, and it is true: pretty blend approach with no special point. No better than his 80s Vienna version, or the 2000s newer live recording (DVD).
    I was going to say that the problem was probably Abbado not over recording.
    Fools talk because they have to say something, wise men talk because they have something to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campy View Post
    Ninths in my collection:

    Dohnanyi 1985 (Telarc)
    Karajan 1962 (DG)
    Karajan 1977 (DG)
    Bohm 1970 (DG)
    Bernstein 1964 (Sony)
    Szell 1961 (Sony)
    Updating. Since posting this I've acquired several more:

    Immerseel 2007
    Gardiner 1992
    Harnoncourt 1991
    Walter 1959
    Hogwood 1988
    Vänskä 2006
    Bernstein "Ode to Freedom" 1990

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    Update:
    - Mengelberg,soli,CtGeb/iron needle 1940 in 1437
    - Furtwängler,soli,PO/tahra 1954 furt 1003 (but can´t find it at the moment)
    - Karajan,soli,BPO/dg 1977 415 832-2
    - Karajan,soli,BPO/DG LP 1962
    - Fried,soli,BerlStOpO/iron needle 1928 in 1395
    - Furtwängler,soli,BayrEns/EMI References CD & emi-dacapo 2lp "st" smvp 8051/52
    - Furtwängler,soli,BPO (Stockholm)/everest "st" 3241
    - Leibowitz,soli,RPO/rca st vd 87880
    - Norrington,soli,LondClasPl/angel 87 ds 49221
    - E.Kleiber,soli,WPO/dec mono nd256
    - Münch,soli,BosSO/rca CD + LP vics 1114
    - Toscanini,soli,NBCSO/rca mono 1952
    - Bernstein,NYPO/cbs LP 1967
    - Vänskä, Minnesota O/BIS
    Last edited by joen_cph; Sep-20-2012 at 20:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moody View Post
    I was going to say that the problem was probably Abbado not over recording.
    Abbado may be not (for you), but B9 is sure!

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