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    I like Pink Floyd (in particular, I like Dave Gilmour solos and harmonies, for some reason they get me ). For example, this is the kind of things I love from him:



    (from 0:00 to 1:05, one of those Gilmour moments...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    Yeah, Rock Bottom is a classic! Wyatt is such a talented and imaginative artist.
    yeah, Rock Bottom is a fantastic album, and love his voice too.

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    pink floyd and whatts are the king.
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    I live and breath Classical Music, but "Supper's Ready" by Genesis has recently blown me away. I believe that it is the greatest rock song, ever. Repeated listens reinforce my wonder. The entire song is amazing, but the last 5 minutes lift this masterpiece into something else altogether. Discovering this music has been an incredible experience for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    I live and breath Classical Music, but "Supper's Ready" by Genesis has recently blown me away. I believe that it is the greatest rock song, ever. Repeated listens reinforce my wonder. The entire song is amazing, but the last 5 minutes lift this masterpiece into something else altogether. Discovering this music has been an incredible experience for me.
    One of the better examples, but there are others too. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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    Speaking of Ryptal, his father was a composer.

    I have two or three straight orchestral works composed by Terje on tape. I don't believe they were ever put to lp/cd.

    They are excellent!



    ....
    If you are talking orchestra merging with prog, or progband VS orchestra battles:

    Jon Lord -Sarabande (one of my all time fav lps)
    -Windows
    -Gemini Suite

    Deep Purple - Concerto for Group & Orchestra

    Seigal Schwall Band (not prog) (I'm sure I spelled it wrong) on Deutsch Grammophone with Ozawa.

    Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed (not exactly prog as commonly accept as - this is just popsong,ballad and one freakbeatish track sequing into straight orchestral)

    There are others, some rather obscure.

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    As to classical INSIDE prog tracks, there are legion examples.

    Many , say like 2 or three by Renaissance, go uncredited.('Running Hard' Jehan Alain 'Litanies')


    Best-known would be ELP: Copland,Ginastera,Parry,Bartock,... "knife Edge" opening part is Yanachek 'Sinfonetta for Orchestra'


    How many prog classical ripoffs of "hall of mountain king" alone. Sheesh!

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    I started out with Russian classical music as a young child but by my teen years was looking for something more relevant to modern life. Growing up in the era of MAD (mutually assured destruction), the precision violence and terror of King Crimson seemed just right. Also liked Soft Machine, Henry Cow and Van der Graaf Generator. The large scale multimovement instrumental works of these bands got me back into classical music by the end of high school.

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    This thread is devolving to a thread which is merely....what prog bands you like.

    The origional poster asks of "combinations of classical with prog"; of symphonic influence on prog; of classical within specific prog tracks.
    Yet even he himself is off-subject because his quoted bands , Genesis and Ange , have never INCORPORATED classical pieces into the prog.

    Others mention King Crimson, VDGG, Pink Floyd ,Canterbury bands, Soft Machine and Wyatt. These people/bands have NOTHING to do with this subject.

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    The Enid: In the region of the Summer Stars. Robert John Godfrey was an okay pianist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deacon View Post
    This thread is devolving to a thread which is merely....what prog bands you like.

    The origional poster asks of "combinations of classical with prog"; of symphonic influence on prog; of classical within specific prog tracks.
    Yet even he himself is off-subject because his quoted bands , Genesis and Ange , have never INCORPORATED classical pieces into the prog.

    Others mention King Crimson, VDGG, Pink Floyd ,Canterbury bands, Soft Machine and Wyatt. These people/bands have NOTHING to do with this subject.
    I think your comment is to gernal to say these bands are not of the type- probably not PF but the output of the rest is varied and does included classically influenced Prog

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    Pretty old thread to revive.


    I am a huge prog fan. Prog takes up about 40% of my listening, classical about 40% and jazz and fusion, the remaining 20%.


    While classic prog (YES, Genesis, GG, VDGG, PFM, Banco, etc) occupy a lot of my collection, I am also a huge fan of the avant garde side of prog. Bands that are more influenced by mid to late 20th century, and contemporary composers, than the.

    Instead of mostly listening to Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Mahler, Beethoven, etc, as the classic bands did. These guys were listening to Schoenberg, Webern, Carter, Berlio, Ligeti, etc,

    Bands like:

    Henry Cow
    Thinking Plague
    Aranis
    Univers Zero
    Art Zoyd
    Samla Mannas Mana

    Etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deacon View Post
    Others mention King Crimson, VDGG, Pink Floyd ,Canterbury bands, Soft Machine and Wyatt. These people/bands have NOTHING to do with this subject.
    I beg to disagree. Some King Crimson is like listening to Bartok SQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deacon View Post
    This thread is devolving to a thread which is merely....what prog bands you like.

    The origional poster asks of "combinations of classical with prog"; of symphonic influence on prog; of classical within specific prog tracks.
    Yet even he himself is off-subject because his quoted bands , Genesis and Ange , have never INCORPORATED classical pieces into the prog.

    Others mention King Crimson, VDGG, Pink Floyd ,Canterbury bands, Soft Machine and Wyatt. These people/bands have NOTHING to do with this subject.
    "This thread" barely got going over 5 years (!), so it's hard to say what it has "devolved" into.

    It may be true that Genesis didn't incorporate classical compositions into their work, but the OP didn't specify this, seeming instead to ask about a more general connection between the two. Firth of Fifth would be an obvious example of Genesis imitating classical.
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