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    My favourite is the 3rd.

    Sets I own: Gardiner; Harnoncourt; Konwitschny; Sinopoli; Solti; Zinman.

    I actually think they are all very good! (I was contrasting this feeling with that in regard to the available Schubert sets: a very different situation in my opinion). I grew up with the Solti, so have a nostalgic attachment. If I had to pick one, it would be between Konwitschny and Sinopoli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Any special conductor you like with this symphonies ?
    Sinopoli and Sawallisch.
    I would urge all Schumann lovers to try Venzago.....A different Schumann. A love or hate experience.
    Last edited by AlanB; Mar-03-2017 at 10:34.

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    Never knew Mahler re-orchestrated these!

    What are the biggest changes he made? More "colorful"? Any textural differences? Is it leaner overall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio View Post
    The Donanyi was one of the finest recent outings... perhaps because the Cleveland Orchestra had an special affinity with these dating back to the classic George Szell recordings:



    I can't think of any recording of Schumann's symphonies that made it clear just how great Schumann's symphonies are as this one did. An absolutely essential set for any Schumann lover.

    The other alternative is the HIP recording by Gardiner:



    This was probably my favorite Schumann cycle... prior to getting my hands on the Szell set. The set includes the incomplete 'Zwickau' symphony as well as the rarely performed original scoring of the 4th.
    Got to agree with the Szell cycle. Listening to it today. Very good 4th!

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    This set rises high in ( my humble) ratings
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Never knew Mahler re-orchestrated these!

    What are the biggest changes he made? More "colorful"? Any textural differences? Is it leaner overall?
    I can't stand Mahler's re-orchestrations of the first three- the fourth I can tolerate, I don't know why- but I prefer it in it's original form anyways. Schumann's rough orchestration overall contribute more to the musicality and emotion of the symphonies in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post

    This set rises high in ( my humble) ratings
    Just heard this. Excellent (as is his brilliant Mahler 1st)

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    ^ Looks like he has a Mendelssohn Symphony set coming out soon.

    https://www.amazon.com/Mendelssohn-S...n+mendellssohn

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    They were probably mentioned already, but this Sawallisch set is an absolute must, imo. I was never a big fan of those works before hearing this recording, but they changed everything.
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    Listening this morning to a half recorded Prom from July (Bernard Haitink, Chamber Orchestra of Europe) I thought at first I was listening to Mozart until the slow movement, when I realised that he was either much more interesting than I'd previously found him...or it wasn't Mozart. Then the pedestrian final movement confirmed it - this was not Mozart, so I was not surprised to hear the announcer confirm it was Schumann's 2nd Symphony. Worth revisiting the adagio, but not so keen on the rest.

    BTW, the orchestra played the scherzo from Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream, a piece I'd only ever heard the first few bars of (as a musical cue to a production of the play I was in) so had never heard the marvellous flute solo towards the end. Fantastic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
    Listening this morning to a half recorded Prom from July (Bernard Haitink, Chamber Orchestra of Europe) I thought at first I was listening to Mozart until the slow movement, when I realised that he was either much more interesting than I'd previously found him...or it wasn't Mozart. Then the pedestrian final movement confirmed it - this was not Mozart, so I was not surprised to hear the announcer confirm it was Schumann's 2nd Symphony. Worth revisiting the adagio, but not so keen on the rest.

    BTW, the orchestra played the scherzo from Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream, a piece I'd only ever heard the first few bars of (as a musical cue to a production of the play I was in) so had never heard the marvellous flute solo towards the end. Fantastic!
    I thoroughly enjoy Haitink's Schumann with the Concertgebouw Orchestra of Amsterdam on Philips (1990). Great performances. The recording is excellent. I particularly enjoy the soundstage on these recordings. The image places you about 10-15 feet behind Haitink.
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    I bought the 4 Symphonies by Sawallisch in Berlin, long before joining TC. I prererred them to Karajan, but I never had further curiosity for recordings. I had the CDs but I even saw the LP box set in Amsterdam. I let it go.

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    I have the 4 Symphonies by Sawallisch/Dresden, I like them but find them a bit staid, perhaps. I just bought Janowski's 2 & 4 with the RLPO for 25p in a charity shop, not expecting much. So a nice surprise when I found them to be very good. They are lively versions, maybe preferable to Sawallisch (though haven't listened to Sawallisch in a while, so I need to do some serious comparing...) I then just had to buy Janowski's 1 & 3... not 25p... but still a bargain on ebay... The Penguin 1999 guide give 1 & 3 a rave review, suggesting the pacing is most convincing, with an "inspirational pull" like Karajan's. That's what I heard in 2 , and somewhat in 4. Also, an esteemed amazon reviewer seems to like the set.

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