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    Watching him conduct I learned or became more attentive to something
    During Messiaen Expectum.....
    he cued the gongs and lifted
    his arms wide like a bird
    and held them there as the sound
    built up
    then reverberated
    and then fell away
    he was making the audience aware of the acoustics of the room
    and musics expression in the room...
    (this effect is not nearly as pronounced on disc)

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    fascinating interview
    also on Ives....
    interesting on Ives and Mahler
    It never occurred to me that the US and Russia both had an active avante garde until the 20s
    when both succumbed to neo classicism and populism

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    These are the two Boulez recordings I first "imprinted" on, originally on Columbia Masterworks LPs:

    First, the original LP covers:



    and the CD releases:


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    I was fortunate to attend all of the Boulez years at the NY Philharmonic-I was a season subscriber for many years. I heard a wonderful Mahler 3rd, Ravel La Valse and Liszt Legend of St. Elizabeth during his tenure. The NY press was so busy criticizing him, they missed his greatness. Idiots!
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    Overhyped and overrated.
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
    "Mahatma Gandhi"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Overhyped and overrated.
    Something something hypocrisy something something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Overhyped and overrated.
    Overrated? I'm still dreaming of the day when Boulez' works are regularly performed by my local orchestra - I managed to catch a performance of Livre pour cordes recently - but I'm not getting my hopes up.

    The only complaint I have about Boulez the Composer is that he composed so very little. I would've loved to hear the third expansion of Anthèmes, it was supposed to become a full-fledged violin concerto for Anne-Sophie Mutter... Sigh!

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    Recent tributes to the late Pierre Boulez by Wolfgang Rihm and György Kurtág.

    Some comments from Tom Service: https://www.theguardian.com/music/to...al-rihm-kurtag

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    One positive outcome of his death was I got to hear his music getting played on radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloe View Post
    One positive outcome of his death was I got to hear his music getting played on radio.
    Ouch, that's sad but still quite endearing at the same time. I'm sure Boulez would've been happy to hear that. =)

    I'm currently reading The Musical Language of Pierre Boulez by Jonathan Goldman. It's a bit difficult for me to read - because the topic is quite challenging + English isn't my native language - but so far it has given me a tremendous insight into Boulez' world, especially concerning his views on musical form and Webern. Recommended!

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    A brief but sympathetic obituary for Pierre Boulez by Esa-Pekka Salonen, which includes a (mildly) amusing anecdote:

    https://www.esapekkasalonen.com/writ.../pierre-boulez

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    Pierre Boulez was a great conductor and I'm glad I was able to hear him in person. His Debussy and Stravinsky records with the Cleveland Orchestra stand out for me, but there are many other highlights, such as the records with his Ensemble InterContemporain. Like all great conductors, he was able to get his characteristic sound from any top orchestra. You might think it's too cool and detached at times, but it is his unique sound, and he nearly always makes a very good case for it.
    Le marteau sans maitre is a favorite of mine, as his Sonatine for flute and piano, though that is very difficult to play due to its complicated rhythmic structure. Both are important landmarks in the history of western music IMO, even if, like many innovators, he may have had a slightly exaggerated opinion of his own historical importance. As I mentioned elsewhere, it's that fanatical belief in one's own ideas that gives these innovators strength to swim against the tide and reach new shores.

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