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    I suppose that all movements in a particular symphony are interconnected through in some way but my favorite symphonies are those in which one movement foreshadows or points back to another. Dvoraks 9th is a prime example. Clearly in the 4th movement, the themes from the 1st and 2nd movement can be heard.

    What are some other symphonies in which this foreshadowing or flashback occurs? Perhaps it may even occur between multiple symphonies of a particular composer.
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    Philip Glass: all nine plus no. 10 and the one's that he is yet to write.

    Beethoven: no. 5, no. 9.
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    Schumann - Symphony No. 4
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    Tchaikovsky 5 - The theme from the introduction of the first movement returns as one of the main themes of the final movement. I also think it is briefly quoted in one of the middle movements as well.

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    Listen to French music, much of it is cyclical in its form.

    Examples:
    Franck's Symphony
    Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony
    Debussy's La Mer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olias View Post
    Listen to French music, much of it is cyclical in its form.

    Examples:
    Franck's Symphony
    Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony
    Debussy's La Mer
    also Chausson's Symphony in B-flat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olias View Post
    Listen to French music, much of it is cyclical in its form.

    Examples:
    Franck's Symphony
    Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony
    Debussy's La Mer
    Quite true. I've just listened to the Organ Symphony and La Mer and these are great examples as well. I think I'll be more interested in the compositions of the French from now on.
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    I did a thread not long ago on this type of issue HERE. But it's about all genres, not just symphonies.

    Some I would add:
    - Haydn Sym.#103 'Drumroll' - the first symphony to bring anything back at the end, namely, the drumroll! (but it's more a texture than a theme, but still quite innovative)
    - Rimsky-Korsakov Scheherazade - not called a symphony but a symphonic suite, but emphasis in this work is definitely on the thematic unity of a symphony, not the looser structure of a suite
    - Carlos Chavez - Symphony #4 'Sinfonia Romantica' - all of his symphonies are thematically tight, but this one is especially so
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    Mahler 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violadude View Post
    Mahler 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
    Because the seventh is the best of the lot.
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    Liszt, Faust.
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    Beethoven - Symphony No. 9 in d minor Op. 125 - 'The Choral' - all the first themes of movements 1,2 and 3 are showcased again in the first part of the 4th movement.
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    Many Bruckner symphonies qualify as well, particularly nos. 3, 4, 5 and 8.

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    Tchaikovsky's 5th.

    Elgar's 1st.

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    Shostakovich's 5th, I believe. The theme from the 1st movement is repeated in the 4th, and perhaps themes or motifs from the 2nd and 3rd is also repeated, but I forget.
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