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    Talking Russian opera just for Russian opera LOVERS

    Personally I don't love the title. Once I started a thread and I guess, people who didn't know anything about Russian opera participated... I guess it was a waste of everybody's time... I would like to participate here people who know at least 50 Russian operas. I am sorry to be a bit restrictive... But "lo bueno y breve, dos veces bueno" (good when is short is twice good)

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    If this thread had been titled "Post here if you like Russian opera a little bit" I probably would have waited and watched how it developed. As only people who know 50 operas or more are allowed to post here I feel excluded and so I am compelled to post even if I am not allowed to.

    Listened to this the other day, The Mussorgsky piece is a bit obscure, probably only a native Russian speaker would really get the satire but the Rimsky-Korsakov piece is great except for one of those annoying laughs that opera characters make.

    'Mozart & Salieri', 'The Marriage'.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by quack View Post
    If this thread had been titled "Post here if you like Russian opera a little bit" I probably would have waited and watched how it developed. As only people who know 50 operas or more are allowed to post here I feel excluded and so I am compelled to post even if I am not allowed to.

    Listened to this the other day, The Mussorgsky piece is a bit obscure, probably only a native Russian speaker would really get the satire but the Rimsky-Korsakov piece is great except for one of those annoying laughs that opera characters make.



    'Mozart & Salieri', 'The Marriage'.jpg

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    It is OK! Mozart and Salieri is an interesting opera about Pushkin's story where Mozart was murdered by Salieri, just a theory. This is the shortest opera of the grand maestro, about tha Marriage (Gogol) the story is funny and the opera was never completed by Modest who left unfinished almost all his operas... I hope you know more about R-K's operas, he composed 15 beautiful operas and... I have them all, Servilia I have just some excerpts, this opera was destroyed by him after the unsuccessful premiere.

    About the version of Mozart it is quite important. I got one with the great Ivan Kozlovsky...and I have another two.

    http://www3.bell.net/svp1

    You can see just Russian composers if you want.



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    P.S. Personally I don't like the marriage, I have both on DVD too
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    "The Legend of the Invisible City of Kitezh and the Maiden Fevroniya is a masterpiece!" shouted Bardamu just before being booted out by Myaskovsky for missing the thread requirements.

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    just to taste R-K's flavour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardamu View Post
    "The Legend of the Invisible City of Kitezh and the Maiden Fevroniya is a masterpiece!" shouted Bardamu just before being booted out by Myaskovsky for missing the thread requirements.
    indeed, it is, I bought the DVD 3 months ago, it is absolutely awesome. Once you know Russian opera, opera doesn't have the same taste any more. It is in between the lightness of Italian opera and the deepness of German opera. Thank you for sharing with us!

    I am sorry about the 50 stuff, I know at least 150....LOL I am a real fanatic, I guess!

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    50 Russian operas? are you joking?
    I only know one - Tchaikovsky's Onegin - and I think it is well over rated.

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    Russian opera that really grabs me, although I don't qualify for Martin's group

    Tchaikovsky: Pique dame (my favourite), Eugene Onegin, Mazeppa, Iolanta. I quite like Cherevichki too.
    Borodin: Prince Igor
    Glinka: A life for the Tsar
    Mussorgsky: Boris Godunov, Khovanshchina
    Rimsky-Korsakov: The tsar's bride (my favourite), Le Coq D'Or, May Night, The Snow Maiden. The Legend of the Invisible City of Kitezh is on my "to listen to" pile. Sadko is good too.
    Prokofiev: War and Peace (my favourite), A love for three Oranges, The Gambler, Betrothal in a Monastery (always seems more Italian than Russian to me)
    Shostakovich: Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamascarlatti View Post
    Russian opera that really grabs me, although I don't qualify for Martin's group

    Tchaikovsky: Pique dame (my favourite), Eugene Onegin, Mazeppa, Iolanta. I quite like Cherevichki too.
    Borodin: Prince Igor
    Glinka: A life for the Tsar
    Mussorgsky: Boris Godunov, Khovanshchina

    Rimsky-Korsakov: The tsar's bride (my favourite), Le Coq D'Or, May Night, The Snow Maiden. The Legend of the Invisible City of Kitezh is on my "to listen to" pile. Sadko is good too.
    Prokofiev: War and Peace (my favourite), A love for three Oranges, The Gambler, Betrothal in a Monastery (always seems more Italian than Russian to me)
    Shostakovich: Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk
    You have never disappointed me! That is great! But about the WODERFUL Russlan and Ludmila (Pushkin). I think it is important to read those books, it is important to enter deeper in the stories.
    Ruslan and Liudmila (Mikhail Ivanovich Glinka)



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    Rimsky-Korsakov : Christmas eve, it is the same story than Cherevichky, but this is the original title of the short story by Gogol, composed after Tchaikovsky's opera




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    Quote Originally Posted by myaskovsky2002 View Post
    Rimsky-Korsakov : Christmas eve, it is the same story than Cherevichky, but this is the original title of the short story by Gogol, composed after Tchaikovsky's opera




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    Well the overture is pretty convincing. Love the bells, this is music I would play on Christmas Eve to remind me of my cold snowy Swiss village when New Zealand is sweltering in summer December heat.

    I'll watch the YouTube opera version to get a feel for it, but I must confess to preferring my Russian opera in Russian, even if I can't understand a word of it. The only affordable relatively recent CD I can find on Amazon is (dare I say it) from Naxos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamascarlatti View Post
    Well the overture is pretty convincing. Love the bells, this is music I would play on Christmas Eve to remind me of my cold snowy Swiss village when New Zealand is sweltering in summer December heat.

    I'll watch the YouTube opera version to get a feel for it, but I must confess to preferring my Russian opera in Russian, even if I can't understand a word of it. The only affordable relatively recent CD I can find on Amazon is (dare I say it) from Naxos.
    I agree plenty but, as far as I know, is the only version on DVD. On CD you have many versions, I you were interested, gladly I have some recommendations, in Rusian, of course.

    You can see my music and videos at http://www3.bell.net/svp1 you can get just operas. I have also a list of Rusian composers. You will find there all R-K Operas, all Tchaikovsky's, all Prokofiev, all Rachmaninov, all Glinka's, All Dargomizhsky's, All Shostakovich's... Indeed I took many many years...Remember I am an old guy. LOL
    Remember to do Control F to access a particular information (e.g. composer, cunductor, etc)

    Sometimes the titles are in French, sometimes in English and a few times in Spanish (ex.: la fiancée du tsar or la novia del zar is the tsar's bride) dependig on my mood.... You will notice many versions of the operas I love. Why? Because some parts are great in one version and other parts are great in another version. That's why I have around 4,000 CDs/DVDs and some known composers I like less, I have just a little (e.g. I am not a Bach fan). Around 70% of my music corresponds to Russian composers.

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    I'm pretty sure this thread is going to die soon. The wicked witch of the WEST is not attracted by Russian music.

    Nitram, sad
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    I had a look at your list, you seem to have one CD recording of La Veille de Noel. I'll put it on my wishlist.
    Natalie

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamascarlatti View Post
    I had a look at your list, you seem to have one CD recording of La Veille de Noel. I'll put it on my wishlist.
    I do have 3 versions the best for me is a bit old but the very best, Golovanov.

    http://www.amazon.com/Rimsky-Korsako...+eve+golovanov

    You have many other awesome operas by R-K: May Night (Gogol), The story of Tsar Saltan (Pushkin), Mlada (opera-Ballet). You can have some excerpts on youtube, apparently Russlan and Liudmilla (Glinka) is complete in many parts, there some softwares to record from youtube if you don't want to buy the opera.

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