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    Quote Originally Posted by stomanek View Post
    We are all different - but background music listening I could never do - whether it be a Corelli concerto or the last movement of Mahler's 2nd symphony. I am either in the music or not. The exception is driving - I can listen and drive - except when the wife is in the car!
    Don't you read and listen to music at the same time? I tend to do that or be typing while listening to music. Or housework!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stomanek View Post
    We are all different - but background music listening I could never do
    Music is my second great passion in life, right after art. I eat, sleep and dream music. I aspire to be surrounded by great music at all times, awake or asleep. It isn't always backgrounded, but it's always there. That's the great thing about a music server and a massive itunes library.
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    Yes, an 'unlistened to' pile is easy to accumulate, esp. if
    - things are on special
    - second hand cd's which are very cheap

    I have got a few dozen cd's in my 'unlistened to' pile, and I actually culled a couple of dozen that I knew I bought without Mick Jagger's 'rule' in mind. The old rocker of 'The Rolling Stones' sang in a song something like 'you can't always get what you want, but you can get what you need.'

    So that's the thing I keep in mind when I think of buying a recording - do I really need this? Do I really want to listen to this or is it something I'm telling myself I 'should' do?

    Basically, if I really want to listen to it pronto, I buy it. But if I want to put it on the backburner, I don't buy it. Or it can always be bought later, no sweat.

    Surprise surprise, most of the culled cd's where things I should have known I had lukewarm interest in when I bought them. It was a long shot I'd even listen to them once, let alone many times, which is what I do as a general rule with all the recordings I own.

    My advice to others with this conundrum - same as it is to myself, consantly - is get rid of the 'shoulds.' Life is too short for more 'shoulds' than you need, than you are already burdened with. Don't let this whole thing become a chore, and risk maybe even killing the joy in it.

    Ok after preaching I better get back to my 'unlistened to' pile and do some listening. I've got to make a list of things to get through in the next fortnight (NOT!...only joking, I'm not as methodical as that, nowhere near, alas...same goes from my 'unread' pile of books, most of them on music!).
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    I listen to everything at least once before buying/downloading!
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    I usually have about 10-20 Discs in my to be listened to pile - every few months or so I will work it down to about 5 Discs but then I usually buy new stuff!
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    The "Unlistened to Pile" is one of the reasons I hate those complete box sets.

    I have several of them piling up to be complete! And worse, even for some of the complete ones, I had only went through the whole thing of the Mozart, Brahms, Haydn once for each set. Can't remember lots of them to be honest!)

    Very time consuming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonata View Post
    I've reached a new stage in music addiction: Not merely HAVING an unlistened-pile. No, I've had this for months. My new level is that I've ordered music that I know OFF THE BAT will go into that pile for a little while *shamefaced*. See, previously my unlistened to music came about rather by chance. So much music, so little time. It just added up. Well, I'm not ready for any more "unlistened to" music right now, because I'm trying to select a few works I own and become really familliar with. And then I find wish-listed items available on the cheap from Amazon dealers....well those deals won't be around forever! So, into my shopping cart they go, to immediately be whisked away into my unlistened to pile. Those poor CDs! But what fun when I DO get around to listening
    This is my life...


    ok, ok...this is my life when I actually have money.

    My advice: Call A&E and tell them to make a "Hoarders: Music edition."

    Cause if you have a bad habit, you might as well call American television and have them make you rich off your bad habit.
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    The solution to the problem is systematic listening. List all your CDs on a spreadsheet and mark them off as you listen to them. The inflexible rule is that you cannot return to a CD before every CD in your collection is ticked off. This has many benefits, not least that it discourages incontinent buying. I know that every CD I buy 'dilutes' the others because all must receive the same attention. So if I see a boxed set of Telemann I have a powerful incentive to say No.
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    Except for some "99" downloads at Amazon where there's a lot of crap (e.g. second-rate versions of Mendelssohn symphonies I don't care to listen to) in with the diamonds and rarities (e.g. Mendelssohn organ music), there is almost nothing in my collection I have not listened to. I make a point not to let my acquisition of new music outpace my listening. If I am buying much more than I can listen to I am wasting money and being a collector, not a listener. When this has happened I have culled my collection by selling some of my CDs second-hand. Prices these days are so low that it is tempting to overdo it. It is important to remind myself I want to be a sensitive and appreciative listener of classical music, not an archivist. I can't take this stuff with me.

    EDIT: I should add that it has been easier not to overdo it now that there's NML and Spotify. I no longer feel the need to actually buy CDs in order to explore new music/discover what I may be missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The solution to the problem is systematic listening. List all your CDs on a spreadsheet and mark them off as you listen to them. The inflexible rule is that you cannot return to a CD before every CD in your collection is ticked off. This has many benefits, not least that it discourages incontinent buying. I know that every CD I buy 'dilutes' the others because all must receive the same attention. So if I see a boxed set of Telemann I have a powerful incentive to say No.
    I did something similar for awhile (minus the spreadsheet: just glancing at album artwork I'd recall if I'd listened or not). Sometimes it works for me, but I don't like to be quite so rigid. Because if I'm not in the mood for Dvorak chamber music, yet I play it because it hasn't been listened to, I probably won't enjoy that as much as when I am in the mood for Dvorak. What I HAVE started doing that I think is helping is if I want, say a CD of romantic-era piano concertos, I'm going to make sure I go through and listen to the romantic piano concertos I already own before buying that new CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The solution to the problem is systematic listening. List all your CDs on a spreadsheet and mark them off as you listen to them. The inflexible rule is that you cannot return to a CD before every CD in your collection is ticked off. This has many benefits, not least that it discourages incontinent buying. I know that every CD I buy 'dilutes' the others because all must receive the same attention. So if I see a boxed set of Telemann I have a powerful incentive to say No.
    I sort of do something like this, making myself listen to as much of my music as possible each year - I can just about get it all in once (excepting a couple of Brilliant boxes).

    But for me, I can't let myself only listen to a CD once in that time, or I would cheat by buying more recordings of my favorite works, and that would defeat the purpose (assuming the purpose is help me control my purchasing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The solution to the problem is systematic listening. List all your CDs on a spreadsheet and mark them off as you listen to them. The inflexible rule is that you cannot return to a CD before every CD in your collection is ticked off. This has many benefits, not least that it discourages incontinent buying. I know that every CD I buy 'dilutes' the others because all must receive the same attention. So if I see a boxed set of Telemann I have a powerful incentive to say No.
    LOL! Someone else who uses spreadsheets! I do the same thing.

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    I have nigh-on 1000 discs - as good as the system sounds the thought of entering all that lot onto a spreadsheet would probably make me lose the will to live. Unless you meant only the unheard ones???
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    Itunes enters the info into a database automatically as you rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    Itunes enters the info into a database automatically as you rip.
    However, some of the iTunes information are either insufficient, inaccurate, or not ideal. For instance:

    Do you enter the symphony's full name for each movement? It varies for different iTune purchase;

    Do you use the track title for each opera title, and if so, what language? Some of the entries use lots of special characters;

    Do you sort composer or performer? For composer, do you enter "Bach, J. S." or "J.S. Bach"?

    Believe me, cataloging classical CDs is a huge complicated stuff, and depending on your desire for cross-reference, the more information you enter, the more difficult to get a universal approach.

    There used to be several attempts to do this, and the one has better success (still not ideal) is a Windows program called ClassID (?) or something? The other one currently available can be seen at here: http://www.maestromanager.com/ I have not tried it yet because i use a Mac.

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