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About LinkBacksNot to have Melody or Emotion is a good accusation, but it doesn't apply to all modern Operas I think. So his statement is false.
Not to have Melody or Emotion is a good accusation, but it doesn't apply to all modern Operas I think. So his statement is false.
All composers are not equal to me some of their music sounds better than others-also the music that does not use the african elements in it are not great but garbage.NOW MUSIC IN THE ROMANTIC ERA SOUNDS GREAT.
Explain and expand please, with specific examples. Points will be deducted for hyperbole and unsubstantiated statementsOriginally Posted by mtmailey
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Natalie
After Wagner, opera was pretty much done for. Strauss gave a good effort. Debussy and Schoenberg to some extent. But the writing was pretty much on the wall.
Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?
Well after 1945 broadway musicals came into the picture, and musicals generally, and I think that's now the 'real' living medium. Opera is more a museum piece, although it has some place in the 'classical music universe' as I call it. But this is another issue, or almost.
Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress - Mohandas K. Gandhi.
COMPOSERS ARE NOT EQUAL AT ALL THEY HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES OF COURSE.Well some do use the same african elements such as polyrhythm,variations on a theme,polyphony,monophony & homophony.REMEMBER THEY STOLE AFRICAN MUSIC TO PUT IN THE CLASSICAL MUSIC.Now MOZART used polyrhythm in his symphony #40.
How can I remember something which is a new and extremely unlikely concept to me? What on earth is your evidence? And why are you YELLING?
Natalie
If you are looking for proof then just study music like i have-i do not have to prove anything since i am not in court.Also in history they had african slaves therefore they stole the africans culture from them such as music.Also i am not yelling since i am typing words here.
You are making claims here without providing anything to back them up. Natalie simply asked you to just that. Just saying that Europeans had African slaves, and therefore Western classical music is basically African is something I find rather hard to believe.
And here on the Internet machine, TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED SHOUTING.
Let's just say that opera went downhill after Turandot.
Do rememer though, THEY STOLE CHINESE MUSIC TO PUT IN THE TURANDOT.
Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?
Well, the American minimalists - Reich, Glass, etc. - have put on record they were more influenced by things going on in jazz in the 1960's (esp. bebop) than what was going on across the Atlantic in European avant-garde (eg. they were not influenced by Webern, but they did know his music).
So you are right in that what can loosely be called 'African music' has informed classical music, esp. since 1945. I don't know of Mozart using polyrhythms but I know LIgeti did in his etudes for solo piano. African - esp. West AFrican - drumming influenced the likes of Reich, Harry Partch, Xenakis, Australian composer Nigel WEstlake and so on.
This is a diversion just to say there is some validity in mtmailey's comment, but it has little application in this thread (unless maybe talking of minimalist operas?)...
Last edited by Sid James; Aug-07-2012 at 04:55.
Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress - Mohandas K. Gandhi.
I don't doubt the influence of African music in 20th century music overall, not just classical, but not Mozart or any of those geezers.
Uphill, you mean - of course, it's harder to follow uphill.
Those cheating italians!
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