View Poll Results: Most favorite Scandinavian Composer?

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  • F.A. Berwald

    0 0%
  • Wilhelm Stenhammar

    0 0%
  • Ludvig Norman

    0 0%
  • Johan Helmich Roman

    1 1.43%
  • Hugo Alfvén

    1 1.43%
  • Lars-Erik Larsson

    1 1.43%
  • Carl Nielsen

    9 12.86%
  • Hans Christian Lumbye

    0 0%
  • Edvard Grieg

    15 21.43%
  • Johan Svendsen

    0 0%
  • Per Nørgård

    2 2.86%
  • Rued Langgaard

    2 2.86%
  • Jean Sibelius

    33 47.14%
  • Magnus Lindberg

    0 0%
  • Other who's excluded because of poll limit (comment)

    6 8.57%
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    voted for "other".

    Like joen_cph above, I many names of Scandinavian composers who I could list, but since this poll is not multiple choice, I'll select my favorite from each country.

    Favorite Swede: Karl-Birger Blomdahl
    Favorite Norwegian: Arne Nordheim
    Favorite Icelandic: Jon Leifs
    Favorite Finn: Aarre Merikanto
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    Quote Originally Posted by joen_cph View Post
    Larsson excelled a lot in pastorals and a divertimento-like style, lacking intellectual weight. The "Förklädd Gud" might be an exception, I haven´t heard it. However I agree that calling him minor is probably an exaggeration, at least in a Swedish context, since he experienced with various styles, including serialism, at an early time in that country.
    Förklädd Gud is rather pastoral. But it's gorgeous. And the text is wonderful.

    And have you heard his 12 concertinos, op. 45?

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    Only some of them, but quite a while ago. BIS. Definitely nice, but also neoclassical.

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    Wow. This was the easiest poll question I've ever answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsakes View Post
    So who are your favorite Scandinavian Composers? Those of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland.

    Then Choose your most favorite from the poll.
    Finland is not part of Scandinavia (it is NEXT to it, but not part of it). Finns are ethnically, linguistically, historically and culturally very different from the neighbouring Scandinavians, who share a history, culture and have close ethnic and linguistic links.

    ICELAND (and the Faroes) should be in your list instead of Finland.
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    Norway: Grieg ahead of Tveitt, Halvorsen and Svendsen
    Sweden: Alfven, ahead of Atterberg, Stenhammar and Nystroem.
    Denmark: Nielsen, ahead of Holmboe, Norgard and Langgaard.
    Iceland: Leifs (the only one I know, but very good)

    and, although not Scandinavian:

    Finland: Sibelius, ahead of Salinen, Rautavaara and Madetoja.
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    Finns are ethnically, linguistically, historically and culturally very different from the neighbouring Scandinavians, who share a history, culture and have close ethnic and linguistic links.
    Overall you are right, but it´s not black-and-white. For instance, as regards the cultural, political and geographical similarities, The Nordic Council/Nordisk Råd as a means of rather close cooperation between the countries in many fields includes Finland and was established back in 1952. Projects concerning a Northern Political Union, also including Finland, were popular in Scandinavia in the later part of the 20th century as a possible alternative to European Union membership and still pop up regularly.

    The Swedish language is widespread in Finland and to some extent vice-versa. Finland was Swedish from the 14th until the early 19th century.
    The countries have shared a well-fare society model in the 20th Century too.

    That there is a strong current of Finnish nationalism in Finnish music is undisputable however.
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    This is the hardest poll I've ever partaken in.

    Grieg, Nielsen, Tveitt, Svendsen, Halvorsen. I love them all equally, almost.

    Valen not on the list is scandalous though.

    Quote Originally Posted by joen_cph View Post
    Overall you are right, but it´s not black-and-white. For instance, as regards the cultural, political and geographical similarities, The Nordic Council/Nordisk Råd as a means of rather close cooperation between the countries in many fields includes Finland and was established back in 1952. Projects concerning a Northern Political Union, also including Finland, were popular in Scandinavia in the later part of the 20th century as a possible alternative to European Union membership and still pop up regularly.

    The Swedish language is widespread in Finland and to some extent vice-versa. Finland was Swedish from the 14th until the early 19th century.
    The countries have shared a well-fare society model in the 20th Century too.

    That there is a strong current of Finnish nationalism in Finnish music is undisputable however.
    That Finland is a Nordic country and part of the north - no one's going to argue with you about that, but Finland is not Scandinavian.
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    Norden is the name the Nordic languages use to denote Norway, Denmark, Sweden (which is also known as Scandinavia) as well as Finland and Iceland. Norden without Iceland is Fennoscandinavia. As far as I know, there is no similar word in English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisena View Post
    This is the hardest poll I've ever partaken in.

    Grieg, Nielsen, Tveitt, Svendsen, Halvorsen. I love them all equally, almost.
    Lots of love for the Scandinavian composers here, too. I can't help it that Nielsen's my favorite, but he's just the first among many greats.

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    I don't know too many, but I have some good stuff by Norgard, and Sallinen.

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    To this day, I still like Grieg more than Sibelius. Sibelius is hard to swallow for me sometimes because he's just so austere.

    I would have preferred to have it a multiple choice so I could pick a number there.

    Halvorsen is another great Norwegian composer!
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    My wrong-side-of-the-pond understanding is that the Scandinavian countries share a common language base (Old Norse). When I wish to refer to a group that includes Finland I use 'north-of-the-Baltic'.

    Anyway, my favorite Scandinavian composer is Crusell - those clarinet concertos are lovely things. Quantity of output be damned.

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    Concerning the Scandinavia definition, my main point is that

    1) the historical and cultural connections between especially Sweden and Finland should not be underestimated

    2) given the increasing collaboration and similarities between the countries in the politial and cultural sense during the 20th century, a widened definition of "old" Scandinavia (as found the Pan-Scandinavism movement of the 19th Century) doesn´t represent a problem, at least to me - and a lot of others.

    As a consequence of the opposite view, one will have to dismiss a lot of more or less scholarly works as failed, being it in the field of Scandinavian design, art or music - a few examples:

    http://www.amazon.com/Scandinavian-M.../dp/0838623468
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_design
    http://www.amazon.com/Scandinavian-M.../dp/0847811328
    http://www.boheme-magazine.net/vol2/feb05/exhibit.html
    http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/europe/...avel-guide-10/
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