View Poll Results: Gregorian Chant VS Byzantine Chant

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Thread: Gregorian Chant VS Byzantine Chant

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    Default Gregorian Chant VS Byzantine Chant

    For too long I was moved by Gregorian Chant until one day I came across an album of Byzantine chant ... I found equally fascinating ... especially that in this mode, I have the feeling that there is a voice that acts as a basso ostinato which brings interest for exploring it.

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    So, which do you like more?



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    That is a tough choice. I like Gregorian Chant a great deal... although I probably prefer the sacred music of Central Europe after they begin to push polyphony with Leonin and Perotin. On the other hand... I am greatly enamored of both Eastern Chant (Byzantine, Russian, etc...) as well as the Spanish music or the era... both of which build upon the Arabic/Persian traditions:





    Of course neither Roman Catholic Europe nor the Byzantine/Russians would have accepted the inclusion of instruments within their sacred music.
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    Byzantine plus Georgian.
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    Ambrosian Chant, from Early Christianity. I use to sleep on this CD.

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    I don't know enough on the topic to vote, but thanks to everyone who's posted so far!
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    Allow me to add this which is possibly the most famous Byzantine chant. I have to say I like equally both chants.

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    I trust both contributed to the same purpose quite well. Aesthetically, the Gregorian is closer to me (and to Western Classical Music), emotionally the Byzantine. Sometimes, the latter may be become a "powerhouse"...

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    Hey, what's this "chant" business? I mean, did they do Mozart, the Grosse Fuge, Rite of Spring? Nah, this is just something for bored housefraus who want to pretend to do yoga, relax, and feel "spiritual"...
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    You're right about that; I especially like it when a "drone" is used underneath the chant melody. Check out this example of Hildegard von Bingen:

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    I couldn't choose between them. I enjoy works from both traditions!
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    Not to steer the discussion into religion, but I think that the musical differences in Roman Catholic chant and Byzantine chant (Orthodox Greek) might be due to or influenced by several overall factors: the Greek Orthodox liturgy is conducted in Greek rather than Latin; Greek Orthodox Churches, unlike the Catholic Church, have no Bishopric head, such as a Pope, and hold the belief that Christ is the head of the Church. However, they are each governed by a committee of Bishops, called the Holy Synod, with one central Bishop holding the honorary title of "first among equals."

    To me, this sounds less patriarchal, and more appealing, for several reasons.
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    I thought I'd vote for 'both' but after trying the OP's samples, I knew at once. Gregorian - it is in my bones. So melodic.
    Byzantine is wonderfully eery but after a while it drags; I can live in Gregorian.
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    Knock, knock? Anybody here on this thread?

    What's with the "like" on both KenOC's scathing post as well as mine? There appears to be some ambivalence on this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    Knock, knock? Anybody here on this thread?

    What's with the "like" on both KenOC's scathing post as well as mine? There appears to be some ambivalence on this matter.
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