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    Quote Originally Posted by moody View Post
    I find it bizarre that a pianist becomes great by recording a lot of Liszt---he's got a long way to go.
    Yes, if it were that simple you would be right. He didn't simply record a lot of Liszt, the quality of Howard's entire cycle is great. Also, he's still alive, people like Busoni or Kraus are a bit challenged in that regard.

    I think being a great pianist goes further then just fantastic playing. People like Hamelin or (the sadly deceased) John Ogdon are/were also actively popularizing forgotten composers, or at least attempting to. Argerich is justly famous for her interpretations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mensch View Post
    Yes, if it were that simple you would be right. He didn't simply record a lot of Liszt, the quality of Howard's entire cycle is great.
    I disagree with this. I think that the quality of the cycle overall is very average - from bad to good, but very rarely great. I respect the man as much as any pianist and he has done a great service to Liszt, but I don't think he is a great pianist.
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    I think it would be wrong to nominate pianists that you haven't heard live. Can we scrap all those?

    Now that's just dumb. Do I also have to remove Maria Callas, Joan Sutherland, and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau from my list of "great" singers because I've never heard them perform live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasa View Post
    I think it would be wrong to nominate pianists that you haven't heard live. Can we scrap all those?
    No. Rubes get to have their say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opus55 View Post
    Brendel.. but he retired, right?
    He has retired for sure; he may have passed away by now.

    (Side note: I am studying with a student of Brendel! It is an amazing feeling, to be Brendel's grand-student!)
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    ^ Nevermind, he is still alive. But I think that he has retired.
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    Among the living pianists that I have the most... and most played recordings I would count:

    Alfred Brendel
    Claudio Arrau
    Murray Perahia
    Maurizio Pollini
    Angela Hewitt
    András Schiff
    Van Cliburn
    Martha Argerich
    Stephen Hough
    Marc-Andre Hamelin
    Krystian Zimmerman
    Stephen Kovacevich
    Grigori Sokolov
    Mitsuko Uchida
    Pascal Rogé
    Jean-Efflam Bavouzet
    Vladimir Ashkenazy
    Radu Lupu

    It really comes down to the repertoire being performed/recorded. And in many instances, my first choice for a given composer or work is not one of these living pianists but rather one of the "greats" of the past:

    Glenn Gould
    Georges Cziffra
    Walter Gieseking
    Emil Gilels
    Vladimir Horowitz
    Friedrich Gulda
    Wilhelm Kempff
    Alicia de Larrocha
    Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
    Sviatoslav Richter
    Rosalyn Tureck
    Earl Wild
    Arthur Rubinstein
    Artur Schnabel
    Rudolf Serkin
    Vladimir Sofronitsky
    Solomon
    Alexis Weissenberg
    Dinu Lipatti
    Leon Fleisher... etc...
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    ^ That was a very good list.
    There is no such thing as a perfect performance. The perfect performance of any piece is enshrined in the composer's score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarterJohnsonPiano View Post
    ^ That was a very good list.
    But not significantly selective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    But not significantly selective.
    No, rather, it was fairly exhaustive. But it will be a good reference for others to choose from.
    There is no such thing as a perfect performance. The perfect performance of any piece is enshrined in the composer's score.

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    Among the deceased, these haven´t been mentioned though:

    Maria Yudina
    William Kapell
    Ernst Levy
    Ignaz Friedman
    Bruce Hungerford
    Jean Doyen
    Tatiana Nikoleyeva
    Beveridge Webster
    Samuil Feinberg

    Among the living, thinkers like:
    Ivan Moravec
    Anton Kuerti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasa View Post
    I think it would be wrong to nominate pianists that you haven't heard live. Can we scrap all those?
    I don't know who you are aiming this at,but if it's me these were examples and I never did get to see some of them. but the question is about pianists of today.
    I 'm not sure there are any great ones,but as has been said Argerich may well qualify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarterJohnsonPiano View Post
    ^ That was a very good list.
    Yes we live on blooming lists here,we have lists for every occasion and some non-occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio View Post
    I think it would be wrong to nominate pianists that you haven't heard live. Can we scrap all those?

    Now that's just dumb. Do I also have to remove Maria Callas, Joan Sutherland, and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau from my list of "great" singers because I've never heard them perform live?
    Absolutely. Judging the quality of a preformer you haven't heard life is out of the question.

    And for the love of god, learn to use quotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasa View Post
    Absolutely. Judging the quality of a preformer you haven't heard life is out of the question.

    And for the love of god, learn to use quotes.
    Well,I think you are wrong--it would be preferable but in many cases impossible,ie I think Rachmaninoff was a wonderful pianist but only from recordings and piano rolls.
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