Thread: Your favorite mass.

Among my favorite "masses":

Monteverdi- Mass for four voices; Mass for Six voices 'In Illo Tempore'
Palestrina- Missa Ave Maria; Missa Hodie Christus natus est; Missa Papae Marcelli; Missa brevis
Allegri- Miserere
Pergolesi- Stabat Mater
Guillaume Dufay- Missa Ave Maris Stella
Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber- Missa Salisburgenis; Missa Bruxellenis; Missa Christi Resurgentis
Jan Dismas Zelenka- Missa Votiva ZWV 18
Charpentier- Te Deum et Messe de Minuit-
J.S. Bach- Mass in B minor
J.C. Bach- Missa da Requiem
Joseph Haydn- Missa in Angustiis ("Nelson Mass"); Missa Cellensis in honorem Beatissimae Virginis Mariae ("Cäcilienmesse"); Missa in tempore belli ("Mass In Time of War" aka "Paukenmesse"); Theresienmesse; Harmoniemesse
Michael Haydn- Missa pro defuncto Archiepiscopo Sigismundo; Missa Sanctae Ursulae
W.A. Mozart- Coronation Mass; Great Mass in C-minor; Requiem Mass
Luigi Cherubini- Requiem in C minor for Mixed Chorus; Mass in C
L.v. Beethoven- Messe in C; Missa Solemnis
Gioachino Rossini- Petite Messe solennelle
Franz Schubert- Mass in A flat Major, D 678; Mass in E flat major, D 950;
Verdi- Requiem Mass
Berlioz- Requiem mass; Messe Solennelle
Gounod- Messe solennelle de Sainte Cécile
Gabriel Faure- Requiem Mass
Johannes Brahms- Ein Deutsches Requiem
Bruckner- Mass nos. 1-3
Dvořák- Requiem Mass; Stabat Mater
Herbert Howells- Hymnus Paradisi, An English Mass, Missa Sabrinensis, Requiem
Maurice Duruflé- Requiem
Benjamin Britten- War Requiem
Frank Martin- Mass
Arvo Pärt- Berliner Messe
John Tavener- Requiem
John Rutter- Requiem
James MacMillan- Mass; Miserere
David Briggs- Mass for Notre Dame
Pascal Dusapin- Requiems


Of course there all all the other related genre of sacred choral works: Stabat mater, Magnificat, Miserere, passions, motets, Te Deum, Gloria, Ave Maria, Vespers, various oratorios, etc...

Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio

In a way I think that with the exception of Chopin, Schubert... and if you include him, Beethoven, the early Romantic composers as a whole are somewhat underrated: Liszt, Berlioz, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Weber, etc...

on TC......

I'd say that my favorites are that of Cherubini, Bach, Ockeghem, and Josquin. Bach's b minor mass, I would consider the standard of excellence. The level of polish and symmetry, the parodies, and the theological synthesis between the Lutheran cross and Catholic reverence, drives it up to the top in terms of religious music. Most masses will give me a genuine religious experience, but not one as substantial as Bach produces.

Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio

Among my favorite "masses":

Monteverdi- Mass for four voices; Mass for Six voices 'In Illo Tempore'
Palestrina- Missa Ave Maria; Missa Hodie Christus natus est; Missa Papae Marcelli; Missa brevis
Allegri- Miserere
Pergolesi- Stabat Mater
Guillaume Dufay- Missa Ave Maris Stella
Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber- Missa Salisburgenis; Missa Bruxellenis; Missa Christi Resurgentis
Jan Dismas Zelenka- Missa Votiva ZWV 18
Charpentier- Te Deum et Messe de Minuit-
J.S. Bach- Mass in B minor
J.C. Bach- Missa da Requiem
Joseph Haydn- Missa in Angustiis ("Nelson Mass"); Missa Cellensis in honorem Beatissimae Virginis Mariae ("Cäcilienmesse"); Missa in tempore belli ("Mass In Time of War" aka "Paukenmesse"); Theresienmesse; Harmoniemesse
Michael Haydn- Missa pro defuncto Archiepiscopo Sigismundo; Missa Sanctae Ursulae
W.A. Mozart- Coronation Mass; Great Mass in C-minor; Requiem Mass
Luigi Cherubini- Requiem in C minor for Mixed Chorus; Mass in C
L.v. Beethoven- Messe in C; Missa Solemnis
Gioachino Rossini- Petite Messe solennelle
Franz Schubert- Mass in A flat Major, D 678; Mass in E flat major, D 950;
Verdi- Requiem Mass
Berlioz- Requiem mass; Messe Solennelle
Gounod- Messe solennelle de Sainte Cécile
Gabriel Faure- Requiem Mass
Johannes Brahms- Ein Deutsches Requiem
Bruckner- Mass nos. 1-3
Dvořák- Requiem Mass; Stabat Mater
Herbert Howells- Hymnus Paradisi, An English Mass, Missa Sabrinensis, Requiem
Maurice Duruflé- Requiem
Benjamin Britten- War Requiem
Frank Martin- Mass
Arvo Pärt- Berliner Messe
John Tavener- Requiem
John Rutter- Requiem
James MacMillan- Mass; Miserere
David Briggs- Mass for Notre Dame
Pascal Dusapin- Requiems


Of course there all all the other related genre of sacred choral works: Stabat mater, Magnificat, Miserere, passions, motets, Te Deum, Gloria, Ave Maria, Vespers, various oratorios, etc...

As always, you demonstrate fairly even tendencies across large spans of time.

Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio

Among my favorite "masses":

Monteverdi- Mass for four voices; Mass for Six voices 'In Illo Tempore'
Palestrina- Missa Ave Maria; Missa Hodie Christus natus est; Missa Papae Marcelli; Missa brevis
Allegri- Miserere
Pergolesi- Stabat Mater
Guillaume Dufay- Missa Ave Maris Stella
Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber- Missa Salisburgenis; Missa Bruxellenis; Missa Christi Resurgentis
Jan Dismas Zelenka- Missa Votiva ZWV 18
Charpentier- Te Deum et Messe de Minuit-
J.S. Bach- Mass in B minor
J.C. Bach- Missa da Requiem
Joseph Haydn- Missa in Angustiis ("Nelson Mass"); Missa Cellensis in honorem Beatissimae Virginis Mariae ("Cäcilienmesse"); Missa in tempore belli ("Mass In Time of War" aka "Paukenmesse"); Theresienmesse; Harmoniemesse
Michael Haydn- Missa pro defuncto Archiepiscopo Sigismundo; Missa Sanctae Ursulae
W.A. Mozart- Coronation Mass; Great Mass in C-minor; Requiem Mass
Luigi Cherubini- Requiem in C minor for Mixed Chorus; Mass in C
L.v. Beethoven- Messe in C; Missa Solemnis
Gioachino Rossini- Petite Messe solennelle
Franz Schubert- Mass in A flat Major, D 678; Mass in E flat major, D 950;
Verdi- Requiem Mass
Berlioz- Requiem mass; Messe Solennelle
Gounod- Messe solennelle de Sainte Cécile
Gabriel Faure- Requiem Mass
Johannes Brahms- Ein Deutsches Requiem
Bruckner- Mass nos. 1-3
Dvořák- Requiem Mass; Stabat Mater
Herbert Howells- Hymnus Paradisi, An English Mass, Missa Sabrinensis, Requiem
Maurice Duruflé- Requiem
Benjamin Britten- War Requiem
Frank Martin- Mass
Arvo Pärt- Berliner Messe
John Tavener- Requiem
John Rutter- Requiem
James MacMillan- Mass; Miserere
David Briggs- Mass for Notre Dame
Pascal Dusapin- Requiems


Of course there all all the other related genre of sacred choral works: Stabat mater, Magnificat, Miserere, passions, motets, Te Deum, Gloria, Ave Maria, Vespers, various oratorios, etc...

What about Michael Haydn's requiem?
Handel dixit dominus?
BTW - I was disappointed in Beethoven's Mass in C. I think I expected too much after hearing the missa solemnis.

Originally Posted by Philip

on TC......

Exactly....

What about Michael Haydn's requiem?

AKA: Missa pro defuncto Archiepiscopo Sigismundo... on my list. Member HarpsichordConcerto led me to that marvelous work on this disc:



Handel dixit dominus?

Well... it's not actually a "mass" but rather a psalm setting... but it is one of my favorite choral works.

As always, you demonstrate fairly even tendencies across large spans of time.

Perhaps more-so in this genre than some others... because I'm a real choral music fanatic. Vocal music is my passion... and choral music above all else... perhaps even opera.

If we do not count Requiems (in which case Mozart and Victoria would enter the list) my favourite composers of masses are

Josquin and
Bach

because Bach's mass in b minor is truly an excellent work for all the times I clash with the Bach-worshippers here.

Machaut - Messe de Notre-Dame;
Josquin Desprez - Missa Pange Lingua;
Palestrina - Missa Papae Marcelli, Missa Viri Galilaei ;
J.Ockeghem - Requiem;
Bach - Mass in B minor, Mass in F;
Mozart - Great Mass in C-minor, Requiem, Coronation Mass;
Cherubini - Requiem;
Beethoven - Missa Solemnis/Mass in C;
Faure - Requiem;
Dvorak - Stabat Mater;
Bruckner - Mass No. 2;
Arvo Part - Missa Syllabica/Berliner Mass;

This thread has become something like "which is your favourite choral work". Requiem, Stabat Mater and some more are different subgenres of choral music.
From the actual Masses, the Bach's Great Mass in b minor is a colossal work of perfect writing. Mozart's Great Mass in c minor is also a monumental work. Schubert's in A flat is a superb work and the one in E flat a true substantive masterpiece of grand scale.
The rest may follow...

Principe

Just discovered a new favorite : Zelenka - Missa Dei Fili [ZWV 20].

Some 'different' ones I've recently discovered & love:

Peter Benoit - Requiem
Giovanni Sgambati - Requiem
Carl Rutti - Requiem.

Would love to hear of other less 'celebrated' works it might be worth getting to know.

Originally Posted by cjvinthechair

Some 'different' ones I've recently discovered & love:

Peter Benoit - Requiem
Giovanni Sgambati - Requiem
Carl Rutti - Requiem.

Would love to hear of other less 'celebrated' works it might be worth getting to know.

See the Wuorinen Mass posted on the first page of this thread for something interesting.

Yes - picked up on that, thanks. Actually it was that which inspired me to try & inject a few 'new' favourites into the equation.
Got it on now...might need to grow on me !

Any other thoughts from anyone welcome ! Thanks.

Sven-David Sandström produced an unusual modern High Mass. Delius' Mass of Life while no longer very modern is quite a departure from the normal, although I didn't like it much. Bernstein's mass is another whole mass of crazy with bongos, banjos and bottles.

Apparently Dave Brubeck has written a mass coooool have to find the whole of that sometime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2FNC66gBJ8

On a more traditional note Josef Rheinberger's sacred works are worth hearing, seems he made 12 masses, not many are are recorded though I think.

Strange requiem masses seem quite common including the Requiem of Reconciliation written by 14 composers which sounds like one of those games of consequences where you write a story without knowing how the story is written so far. Also this looks interesting, Leonardo Balada's agnostic requiem.

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