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    There are those of us who have met many young musicians whose talents rival those of Ms. Deutscher. Even with her abilities the competition is rough. Just because we address the difficulties of succeeding does it mean we are against her.
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    Well, one way or another, she's managed to be the 2nd most controversial composer on talkclassical for several months now. Cage'd better watch his back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by science View Post
    Well, one way or another, she's managed to be the 2nd most controversial composer on talkclassical for several months now. Cage'd better watch his back!
    Sigh...a distant second

    One almost regrets that Cage composed a certain something. Over 60 years later and people struggle daily with its existence... In 60 years, Alma Deutscher won't be on anyone's radar - my calculations have her looking significantly less adorable by then.

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    There is nothing controversial about Ms. Deutscher.

    The controversy is with everyone who is carrying on as if she is the only child prodigy out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arpeggio View Post
    There is nothing controversial about Ms. Deutscher.

    The controversy is with everyone who is carrying on as if she is the only child prodigy out there.
    You're missing the point. There are members of this forum who consider a great contemporary composer to be 1) a cute television personality and 2) a composer of safe, accessible pastiche. The audience will decide and all that nonsense blah blah blah

    This is actually a real thing. She's not the only child prodigy, but so far, perhaps she's one of the least adventurous? That would explain it, tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegendesLicht View Post
    I wish good luck to young Ms. Deutscher, and may she one day become a fine, talented, hard-working and thoughtful musician, living up to her last name
    I'm not sure what is so representative of "Ein Deutscher" when it involves an English child born of a mother whose maiden name is Steen (probably of Dutch or Belgian descent, that neutral enough mom could be a Catholic, a Protestant, a Jew or an athiest) and a father who was born an Israeli national.)

    She could also, by that same general definition of that cliché profile, become the ideal Hausfrau or a master bricklayer.
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    Interestingly enough, this is the first thread on TC devoted to discussing her works. I wonder the progress here.
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    What was your reason for reviving this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonNZ View Post
    What was your reason for reviving this?
    The reason is that the archives show that Deutscher when she started out did not harbor any interest until recently. The question is what accounts for her burst in popularity as she got older?
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    Well without wanting to prolong this or rake over the coals, that came from one TCer repeatedly stating that Deutscher was something like The Greatest Living Composer and represented the True Path of modern classical, not like that other wibbly-wobbly stuff. The backlash was to this (knowingly provocative?) hyperbole and not to the poor kid herself, who everyone would have been otherwise happy to leave to her own devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertfallickwang View Post
    The question is what accounts for her burst in popularity as she got older?
    She never had a burst in popularity. She had a burst in mentions on one internet forum as a result of consistent inflammatory statements. No different than if I start, say, a heated, controversial "Boccherini > Beethoven" thread, which would not be the slightest change in popularity for Mr. Boccherini, really.

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    Default Alma Deutscher

    Is Alma off-limits? Whatever. BBC catches up with her in its "Little Miss Mozart" article.

    http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/201...le-miss-mozart


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    Things gotten too quiet around here for you, Ken?

    This was the comment that most amused me:

    "It is true that most ten-year-olds are unlikely to be pushing boundaries of tonality and form...."

    Yeah. And apparently, it is also true that at least one BBC journalist has no idea what's happening in music today. "Pushing boundaries of tonality and form" is an activity old enough for all its practitioners to be quite dead already. To push boundaries, there actually have to be boundaries to push. Tonality is really not pushable any more, unless you ignore all the pushing that preceded your own sweet self, something Miss Deutscher is unmistakably adept at, to be sure.
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    AD is the subject of professional envy (like Amadeus was). Her creativity at her tender age speaks volumes. Her success at her age speaks even more, a mirror of what contemporary composed music today should be.
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    It's deja-vu all over again!

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