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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    Oh, I've got to hear it! Thanks for mentioning it.
    With only one week to go you'll be paying through the nose for any flight from California to Tel Aviv at this late date! Still, if you do go please write us all a review of the concert. Ta !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    I'm offended. You chose to tell us about this performance even though you fully understand there's an incredible amount of REAL contemporary composers you could have promoted instead. You are practically saying that they just compose non-music noise. Shame on you.
    I'm not sure I follow this (unless of course you're joking - hard to tell on the internet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I'm not surprised that minor ensembles would choose to perform her works. She's very talented for her age, and many people enjoy displays of such talent. I'm not sure I understand why a major orchestra would choose to perform her works. Obviously I have not heard this recent piece, but I'd be a bit surprised if it were significantly different from the works I did sample.

    Do others know of major ensembles choosing to perform works of very young composers? Is it likely that this choice is based on the combination of the following factors: a conservative audience prefers hearing conservative music and precocious youngsters "wow" people with their talents? I'm not sure what percentage of patrons or audience members of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra (or other orchestras) would occasionally prefer to hear immature works by very young composers over more mature works contemporary or earlier.
    Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

    'I' for one am certainly no 'conservative'; nor am I "wowed" by Alma's musical lexicon.

    I merely think she's young and adorable and full of life- and seems to write music that's communicative and meaningful to her instead of trying to curry favor with certain factions by writing musical arcana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalkingHead View Post
    With only one week to go you'll be paying through the nose for any flight from California to Tel Aviv at this late date! Still, if you do go please write us all a review of the concert. Ta !
    As if money were an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I'm not sure I follow this (unless of course you're joking - hard to tell on the internet).
    Admittedly the over-reactions to some of ArtMusic's posts are getting hard to parody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

    'I' for one am certainly no 'conservative'; nor am I "wowed" by Alma's musical lexicon.

    I merely think she's young and adorable and full of life- and seems to write music that's communicative and meaningful to her instead of trying to curry favor with certain factions by writing musical arcana.
    I was asking why the program managers for the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra would choose to select such a work. They may agree completely with your last comment, but do orchestras ever choose works based on those criteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I was asking why the program managers for the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra would choose to select such a work. They may agree completely with your last comment, but do orchestras ever choose works based on those criteria?
    I don't know how orchestras work internally. I was under the impression that the music director made the choices of what the orchestra was going to perform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I was asking why the program managers for the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra would choose to select such a work. They may agree completely with your last comment, but do orchestras ever choose works based on those criteria?
    We could try Googling it!

    http://www.ipo.co.il/eng/Series/Subs...ents,3467.aspx

    Alma Deutscher appears as featured violinist and composer at a concert titled "Music for Children and Children in Music". Event summary: "Young soloists playing music written for children by Schumann, Bizet, Fauré and others". It's part of "The IPO for Kids".

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    D'uh ee leeted...

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    I really sincerely hope that Alma can find a good career in whatever type of music she decides to work on (either performing, composing, or teaching) after she grows older. Hope she doesn't burn out from the praise she receives from her supporters. I used to be a semi-prodigy myself, and I know the negative effects later in life of lots of praise early on. Don't get me wrong, the support is good, but I hope she'll be psychologically okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    I'm not surprised that minor ensembles would choose to perform her works. She's very talented for her age, and many people enjoy displays of such talent. I'm not sure I understand why a major orchestra would choose to perform her works. Obviously I have not heard this recent piece, but I'd be a bit surprised if it were significantly different from the works I did sample.

    Do others know of major ensembles choosing to perform works of very young composers? Is it likely that this choice is based on the combination of the following factors: a conservative audience prefers hearing conservative music and precocious youngsters "wow" people with their talents? I'm not sure what percentage of patrons or audience members of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra (or other orchestras) would occasionally prefer to hear immature works by very young composers over more mature works contemporary or earlier.
    Perhaps speculation here but perhaps pretty easy to figure this out.

    I think that her parents could have paid the orchestra to play her works. It's like the vanity art gallery situation.

    Good on the outside but not juried on the inside necessarily. Or inside connects with the director maybe.
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    The Israel Philharmonic may choose to play her work well, maybe because simply that she is ... let me see ... perhaps talented and good as a composer today? I mean the same orchestra had a hard time accepting to play even Wagner's music at some stage if I am not mistaken. So on all factors considered including political ones, AD must tick all the right boxes.

    All the very best to AD's concert.
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    Last two posts by ArtMusic in this thread were both posted at 13:37. Coincidence?

    edit: the post above and this post.
    Last edited by Dim7; May-27-2015 at 13:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    Admittedly the over-reactions to some of ArtMusic's posts are getting hard to parody.
    The cause is as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    Last two posts by ArtMusic in this thread were both posted at 13:37. Coincidence?

    edit: the post above and this post.
    Whatcha sayin buddy?

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