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Nov-20-2008, 07:45
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Trance is a style of electronic music that developed in the 1990s. Trance music is generally characterized by a tempo of between 130 and 160 BPM, featuring repeating melodic synthesizer phrases, and a musical form that builds up and down throughout a track. It often features crescendos and breakdowns. Sometimes vocals are also utilized.
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Trance music is basically electronic dance music. Robert Miles is a good example of a trance artist
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Nov-23-2008, 17:43
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I don't mean to necropost here, but it looks like the most appropriate place.
I really enjoy the idea of electronica - not surprising given my avatar image, but I don't understand why it evolved almost exclusively into dance music that goes "Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - " rapidly over and over until your synapses implode. I know there are a lot of genres out there and they all sound like the above to me with a few exceptions.
Starting with Tangerine Dream I later found Roger Powell who did a marvelous album called Cosmic Furnace in the 70's and just recently put out a second album of similar non-Oomph-teh electronica, Fossil Poets. I also like Autechre who do not sound like dance music to my ears, or not strictly dance.
These three seem to be a happy medium between the full throttle repetitive dance genres and the almost non rhythmic ambient genres, both of which extremes tend to bore me quickly. I've tried IDM. I've tried DnB, trance, techno, house, downtempo. None of these seem to exactly fit what I'm after.
Is there a genre name for experimental electronic music in the realm of Tangereine Dream or Autechre? I maybe just looking for IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) and the pieces I've sampled were just inflated with the IDM tag. Maybe I should keep trying.
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Nov-24-2008, 18:15
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Trance is primitive crap.
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Applying the techniques in Trance to the production of classical music may be useful!
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Try electroacoustic or spectral music.
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Dec-15-2009, 22:35
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Dec-15-2009, 23:01
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......meh.
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Dec-16-2009, 02:16
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I don't mean to necropost here, but it looks like the most appropriate place.
I really enjoy the idea of electronica - not surprising given my avatar image, but I don't understand why it evolved almost exclusively into dance music that goes "Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - " rapidly over and over until your synapses implode. I know there are a lot of genres out there and they all sound like the above to me with a few exceptions.
Starting with Tangerine Dream I later found Roger Powell who did a marvelous album called Cosmic Furnace in the 70's and just recently put out a second album of similar non-Oomph-teh electronica, Fossil Poets. I also like Autechre who do not sound like dance music to my ears, or not strictly dance.
These three seem to be a happy medium between the full throttle repetitive dance genres and the almost non rhythmic ambient genres, both of which extremes tend to bore me quickly. I've tried IDM. I've tried DnB, trance, techno, house, downtempo. None of these seem to exactly fit what I'm after.
Is there a genre name for experimental electronic music in the realm of Tangereine Dream or Autechre? I maybe just looking for IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) and the pieces I've sampled were just inflated with the IDM tag. Maybe I should keep trying.
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You're so ridiculously right about this. Intelligence Dance Music is the closest genre to what you're looking after. It's very ironic that even it happens to have "dance" in its name, though it's a totally oxymoronic use of the word: IDM is most of the time almost completely undanceable. In fact in at its worst IDM could be more accurately called Insane Undanceable Noise, the complete opposite of its name. The problem with IDM is that it is usually either completely incoherent nonsense, weird for the sake of being weird, or minimalistic and boring, not unlike ambient except it has more emphasis on drums & percussion (Boards of Canada is a pretty good example, though there is something about the atmosphere of their music that appeals to me nevertheless).
It is really sad because I see no reason why electronic music couldn't be great. It has a whole new possibilities of timbre and has much less technical restrictions than acoustic (for the lack of better term - I'm incluiding rock with electric guitars too) music.
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Dec-16-2009, 02:25
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(Boards of Canada is a pretty good example, though there is something about the atmosphere of their music that appeals to me nevertheless).
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It was worth waiting over a year for that answer. Yes, I sort of like Boards of Canada.
Heck, maybe I should try to make the music I'm wanting. I mean, people are producing electronica in their basements these days.
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Dec-19-2009, 19:10
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Originally Posted by Weston
I don't mean to necropost here, but it looks like the most appropriate place.
I really enjoy the idea of electronica - not surprising given my avatar image, but I don't understand why it evolved almost exclusively into dance music that goes "Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - Oomph teh - " rapidly over and over until your synapses implode. I know there are a lot of genres out there and they all sound like the above to me with a few exceptions.
Starting with Tangerine Dream I later found Roger Powell who did a marvelous album called Cosmic Furnace in the 70's and just recently put out a second album of similar non-Oomph-teh electronica, Fossil Poets. I also like Autechre who do not sound like dance music to my ears, or not strictly dance.
These three seem to be a happy medium between the full throttle repetitive dance genres and the almost non rhythmic ambient genres, both of which extremes tend to bore me quickly. I've tried IDM. I've tried DnB, trance, techno, house, downtempo. None of these seem to exactly fit what I'm after.
Is there a genre name for experimental electronic music in the realm of Tangereine Dream or Autechre? I maybe just looking for IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) and the pieces I've sampled were just inflated with the IDM tag. Maybe I should keep trying.
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Try some modern day electro music. Digitalism and Boyz Noise are a couple of favourites of mine.
Aphex Twin also seems right up your alley. His music started off as ambient techno before he ventured into experimental DnB and breakcore (or the closest thing to breakcore in the late 90's). he is also a great admirer of Stockhausen (or was until Stockhausen criticised his music for being too repetitious after hearing samples of it).
If you're looking for something less 'dancey', Alva Noto is a very good producer of glitch music. There are others similar to him, but I haven't explored the genre in depth enough to remember more names.
Brian Eno is pretty essential if you're interested in ambient music. If you want something more recent, try Fennesz.
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