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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    I've never heard the etudes. Better than the preludes?
    They are monumental and fantastic, highly virtuosic and as much again abstract.
    Here ya go....


    ... no good excuses, now :-)
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    Debussy's music simply sublime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    They are monumental and fantastic, highly virtuosic and as much again abstract.
    Here ya go....


    ... no good excuses, now :-)
    Thanks! I'm enjoying that deceptively simple opening of the first etude leading to a virtuosic kaleidoscope of color!
    Very interesting!
    Thank you!

    I just bought this. I'm experienced enough to know when a performer is giving a terrific performance, even though I'm not familiar with the music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Give me 10 non-classical music folks. Play La Mer for each of them. Ask what the music describes. Bet not one says the sea or the ocean.
    That's weird. When I play Strauss' Macbeth to non-classical music folks and I ask what the music describes they always say "Macbeth, of course".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FleshRobot View Post
    That's weird. When I play Strauss' Macbeth to non-classical music folks and I ask what the music describes they always say "Macbeth, of course".
    Yeah. Of course. And when I play Ionisation, my chemistry students shout out "IONS!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Still haven't heard the Etudes.

    Watch this thread for updates.
    My contender is Boffard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    My contender is Boffard.

    Next time. I ordered the Uchida.

    Thanks!
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    http://youtu.be/QFHy0bkUKiU

    My favorite Debussy happens to be L'isle Joyeuse as performed incomparably by the great Sviatoslav Richter.

    Enjoy!
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    Debussy was a real radical. He walked out on a Mahler symphony, declaring it "too reactionary." He did exactly what the hell he wanted to do. His music is beautiful, the art speaks for itself, tradition be damned. The guy really understood music, and sound itself. He took music back from the brain, and gave it back to the ear. But that was an old brain, and he replaced it with his. That's what I call a successful brain transplant!

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    I really can't get over how exceptional Bavouzet's Debussy set is. Going through the preludes and it's like little drops of honey. My taste-buds are literally tingling.

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    I've got so many performances of the preludes. A new set would have to prove really extraordinary for me to add another one.
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    I would like to see if we get some more sustained discussions going in this section of the forum. So a proposal:

    I’m going to post 10 works by individual composers (in this case, Debussy). I’ll list them in personal order of preference. I’ll follow each with a favorite performance. What I would ask is that when people follow up and respond, they do one of two things:

    (a) Argue for alternative works to listen to.
    AND / OR
    (b) Argue for alternative / better performances of each.

    My interest in this is partly personal and partly pedagogical. The pedagogical part is that when newcomers come and read these threads, it might help guide them to a basic core of must-listen-to works and must-listen-to performances. The personal part is that I might find better performances of personal favorites or get new perspectives on composers whose works I enjoy.

    Here’s my Debussy list:

    1. La Mer (1905). Recommended performance: Bernard Haitink / Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Debussy: Orchestral Music (2 CDs) (Philips, 1976)

    2. String Quartet (1893). Performance: Quatuor Ébène, Ravel / Debussy / Fauré: String Quartets (Virgin Classical, 2008).

    3. Preludes (Bk 1: 1910; Bk 2: 1913). Performance: Paul Jacobs (Nonesuch, 1978).

    4. Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp (1915). Performance: Montreal Chamber Players, Autour de la harpe: Roussel / Ropartz / Debussy / Ravel / Koechlin (ATMA Classique, 2006)

    5. Pour le Piano (1894-1901). Performance: Jean-Efflam Bavouzet, Debussy: Complete Music for Piano, vol. 2 (Chandos, 2007)

    6. Images (for orchestra) (1905-1912). Performance: Charles Dutoit / Montreal Symphony, Debussy: La Mer / Images / Nocturnes (Decca, 1989).

    7. Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune (1894). Performance: Stéphane Denève / Royal Scottish National Orchestra, Debussy: Orchestral Works (Chandos, 2012)

    8. Children’s Corner (1908). Performance: Jean-Efflam Bavouzet, Debussy: Complete Music for Piano, vol. 3 (Chandos, 2008)

    9. Sonata for Violin and Piano (1886). Performance: Kyung-Wha Chung (violin) / Radu Lupu (piano), Franck / Debussy: violin Sonatas (Decca, 1977).

    10. Nocturnes (for orchestra). Recommended performance: Bernard Haitink / Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Debussy: Orchestral Music (2 CDs) (Philips, 1976).


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    Another excellent list, of course. Personally, I would replace Nocturnes with Pelléas et Mélisande (1893-1898), in Abbado's recording, and Children's Corner with Etudes (1915), as performed by Mitsuko Uchida.



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    Except for 2 or 3 of them, I find myself not responding to the etudes. Not that accessible to these ears. I have the Uchida performance. My other qualities are impeccable, however.
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    I think that the selection is fine"

    I think Haitink is just chewing La Mer and going no where and Denève in Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune is fine not fantastic, I'd Replace both with Leopold Stokowski (Decca) as well as the Nocturnes (EMI), he put a little sprinkle of magic into Debussy, music with him always becomes more than its parts!

    As for the solo piano stuff, sure Bavouzet is technically amazing, but for an old timer like myself, he lack the intimacy of a legend like Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli (DG) or the superb wizardry of Krystian Zimerman (Preludes / DG) or the blow Your mind to smithereens pianisims of Zoltán Kocsis (Children's Corner / Philips)...

    I agree with Mahlerian that Pelléas et Mélisande (1893-1898) should be there, but I'm not sure what work to dump... As for a recording I slightly prefer Charles Dutoit (Decca) to Abbado, but its no biggie, both suffice as a reference version!

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