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    Quote Originally Posted by ptr View Post
    I think that the selection is fine"

    I think Haitink is just chewing La Mer and going no where and Denève in Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune is fine not fantastic, I'd Replace both with Leopold Stokowski (Decca) as well as the Nocturnes (EMI), he put a little sprinkle of magic into Debussy, music with him always becomes more than its parts!

    As for the solo piano stuff, sure Bavouzet is technically amazing, but for an old timer like myself, he lack the intimacy of a legend like Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli (DG) or the superb wizardry of Krystian Zimerman (Preludes / DG) or the blow Your mind to smithereens pianisims of Zoltán Kocsis (Children's Corner / Philips)...

    I agree with Mahlerian that Pelléas et Mélisande (1893-1898) should be there, but I'm not sure what work to dump... As for a recording I slightly prefer Charles Dutoit (Decca) to Abbado, but its no biggie, both suffice as a reference version!

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    Agree very much concerning Stokowski and Zimerman in particular. In the Nocturnes, I´d probably choose Celibidache/DG (extremely broad and slow, mysterious) and for Prelude a l´Apres Midi also Stokowski on Decca (lovely, atmospheric density and melody). As for the other piano works, I find Michelangeli reserved & prefer pianists like Rev, Fergus-Thomson, T´song, and the Debussy-acquainted Daniel Ericourt and George Copeland, for instance.

    Here´s old Copeland in a wonderfully free, painterly 1933 "Prelude a l´Apres Midi" arranged for piano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn2FbXvsvKE
    Copeland wiki:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Copeland

    In the Violin Sonata, the Gitlis/Argerich is perhaps my all-time favourite recording for any work for these two instruments. Improvisatory, Gipsy-like in the playing style, but wonderful, and like no other recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr4NGbxtlgg
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    True originals don't come around too often, Debussy was truly special.

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    His orchestral music is so amazing. Some of my favourites:

    Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun
    3 Nocturnes
    La Mer
    Printemps
    Premiere Rhapsodie

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    Im a Virgin to Debussy works, what should be my introduction to Debussy?, any masterpiece what are is greatest moments?
    Any perticular symphony or piano forte? Worth checking out.You probably know my taste for un-orthodox bold avant-garde music

    So im looking for this sorta of thing from him.Whit Debussy im gonna buy Erik Satie ''la Gnosienne'' , it's a shame i dont have it yet...

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    If you want the most radical Debussy, check out his orchestral work (originally a ballet) Jeux and his cycle of 12 Etudes for piano. After that, his other late piano works (En Blanc et Noir, Preludes Book II) and Images for Orchestra are probably what you're looking for.

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    Boulez (musically speaking and as a marketing strategy) once wrote that Nocturnes, La Mer and Jeux make a large scale orchestral tryptic. Listening to those works in succession is indeed quite the experience as one figuration reappears transformed and developed into another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahlerian View Post
    If you want the most radical Debussy, check out his orchestral work (originally a ballet) Jeux and his cycle of 12 Etudes for piano. After that, his other late piano works (En Blanc et Noir, Preludes Book II) and Images for Orchestra are probably what you're looking for.
    Love everything you listed, love almost all of the piano music, but I've always had trouble breaking the shell of the Etudes. They seem so esoteric and I can only hear them from a respectful distance. I've had easier times handling the likes of Schoenberg and Ives.

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    ^^^ I gave Etudes another try (Mitsuko Uchida) - it's been a while - and this time i took to about half of them, nos. 1-3, 5, 8, 9 & 11.

    Also, i tend to return to the Cello Sonata and Violin Sonata, again and again. They always sound fresh and adventurous as always with Debussy, even playful in moments. My favorite of the Violin Sonata is Schlomo Mintz/Yefim Bronfman (i also enjoy the one from the '60s with Grumiaux). For the wonderful Cello Sonata, Maurice Gendron/Jean Françaix as well Mischa Maisky/Martha Argerich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aajj View Post
    ^^^ I gave Etudes another try (Mitsuko Uchida) - it's been a while - and this time i took to about half of them, nos. 1-3, 5, 8, 9 & 11.

    Also, i tend to return to the Cello Sonata and Violin Sonata, again and again. They always sound fresh and adventurous as always with Debussy, even playful in moments. My favorite of the Violin Sonata is Schlomo Mintz/Yefim Bronfman (i also enjoy the one from the '60s with Grumiaux). For the wonderful Cello Sonata, Maurice Gendron/Jean Françaix as well Mischa Maisky/Martha Argerich.
    I couldn't break through with the etudes. Same recording. I was falling asleep after the first one. Every time.
    When you don't know what you're saying, you take a long time to say it. When you know what you're saying, you get pithy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    I couldn't break through with the etudes. Same recording. I was falling asleep after the first one. Every time.
    Have you tried Bavouzet?

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    For the Etudes, seems to help when they are taken a few at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Leiermann View Post
    Have you tried Bavouzet?
    Someone recommended him....until I saw the price!! Fuggetaboutit!
    When you don't know what you're saying, you take a long time to say it. When you know what you're saying, you get pithy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aajj View Post
    For the Etudes, seems to help when they are taken a few at a time.
    Yeah, like cough syrup!
    When you don't know what you're saying, you take a long time to say it. When you know what you're saying, you get pithy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Someone recommended him....until I saw the price!! Fuggetaboutit!
    Listen to it on Spotify at least.

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