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    before we go blaming culture and sterotypes.....maybe there really aren't opportunities for kids to do ballet except in big cities?

    I grew up here in the good ol USA. When I was growing up, no one played soccer. Nevermind that in 1950 we (USA national team) beat England in their stadium in their country...soccer just was not played in the 1970s here. It took a real effort at the grass roots to get soccer off the ground. First thing we needed was some soccer fields and some youth leagues so that if someone wanted to play, there was an opportunity.

    I do not see this happening in ballet, so I don't think you can pin this on homophobes and male stereotypes

    but don't let that slow anybody down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Miller View Post
    before we go blaming culture and sterotypes.....maybe there really aren't opportunities for kids to do ballet except in big cities?

    I grew up here in the good ol USA. When I was growing up, no one played soccer. Nevermind that in 1950 we (USA national team) beat England in their stadium in their country...soccer just was not played in the 1970s here. It took a real effort at the grass roots to get soccer off the ground. First thing we needed was some soccer fields and some youth leagues so that if someone wanted to play, there was an opportunity.

    I do not see this happening in ballet, so I don't think you can pin this on homophobes and male stereotypes

    but don't let that slow anybody down!
    Can you try something - open up Google maps and have it search for ballet schools in [the county where you grew up]. I grew up in Westchester, outside of NYC, so that may not be representative of the rest of the country. However, Google found about 50 ballet/dance schools. Even more in Nassau County, Long Island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Can you try something - open up Google maps and have it search for ballet schools in [the county where you grew up]. I grew up in Westchester, outside of NYC, so that may not be representative of the rest of the country. However, Google found about 50 ballet/dance schools. Even more in Nassau County, Long Island.
    I live out in the country in central Pennsylvania. there is one ballet school. I know because they asked me and my duet partner to play for them in November.

    that really doesn't compete with all the baseball, soccer, la cross, football and basketball leagues here. There are travel teams, church leagues, YMCA leagues and all that if you can't make the team at your school.

    So it would seem to me that boys have a lot more opportunites to play sports, so probably all their friends are playing ball, too

    but its good to know that around NYC ballet is thriving. That would go a along way to explaining the Giants season this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sissone View Post
    Yes,your documentary about S.Polunin proves that.As far as pink colors are concerned,I have only worn pink tutu in The Sleeping Beauty/Aurora/
    Sometimes one has to suffer for art, so to speak.
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    In my opinion ballet schools should encourage boys to dance.It is important to find ways of reminding boys that dance is a physical and athletic activity.Emphasize this in classes by watching male dancers in action and compare the relationship between athleticism in dance and sport.Teachers advertising classes should make it clear in the pictures and wording that boys are welcomed too,or offer free classes for boys.

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    sadly, too many ballet schools still market themselves to the mothers of little girls and talk about "little princesses" in their advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Miller View Post
    I live out in the country in central Pennsylvania. there is one ballet school. I know because they asked me and my duet partner to play for them in November.

    that really doesn't compete with all the baseball, soccer, la cross, football and basketball leagues here. There are travel teams, church leagues, YMCA leagues and all that if you can't make the team at your school.

    So it would seem to me that boys have a lot more opportunites to play sports, so probably all their friends are playing ball, too

    but its good to know that around NYC ballet is thriving. That would go a along way to explaining the Giants season this year
    Interestingly, Pennsylvania is the birthplace of 5 of New York City Ballet's 23 principal dancers including three men. And only one from a big city. Two are from Carlisle and two are from Altoona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Interestingly, Pennsylvania is the birthplace of 5 of New York City Ballet's 23 principal dancers including three men. And only one from a big city. Two are from Carlisle and two are from Altoona.

    a lot of famous athletes came from PA, too. My point is not that ballet opportunities for kids do not exist, but that there are many more opportunities to play other sports.

    nobody is stopping boys from getting into ballet. Its just that when I look around, what I see is boys playing ball. I don't really see ballet competing with even Church league basketball

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Interestingly, Pennsylvania is the birthplace of 5 of New York City Ballet's 23 principal dancers including three men. And only one from a big city. Two are from Carlisle and two are from Altoona.
    I hope NYC ballet will get along well under new leaders.

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    Ity's a bit like playing soccer, when girls want to play they are called lesbians, then again, who cares, better been talked about then being anonymous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melaniehiscock View Post
    sadly, too many ballet schools still market themselves to the mothers of little girls and talk about "little princesses" in their advertising.
    They should market themselves to the mothers of little boys and talk about "little princes"There are not only princesses in ballets,but princes too.

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    If we were able to break down the "perfume and flowers" image, we might see more boys in ballet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melaniehiscock View Post
    If we were able to break down the "perfume and flowers" image, we might see more boys in ballet.
    The art of ballet is rather sweat blood,sometimes tears and disappointment than "perfume and flowers"It is not a job to make money,You have to love dance,you have to be born to dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sissone View Post
    The art of ballet is rather sweat blood,sometimes tears and disappointment than "perfume and flowers"It is not a job to make money,You have to love dance,you have to be born to dance.
    Exactly , that's why there are so few who making it, or afraid for being called sissy.
    They don't have the guts/ stamina and they rather playing soccer.
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    in a free society, you have to accept it when people don't want to do something. That's part of living as a free people.

    as much as you personally might love ballet, you cannot judge others who do not share your passion. Expecting a large demographic like "boys" to flock to ballet is not a reasonable expectation. Fact is, an athletic boy has a much better shot at a college scholarship playing sports.

    so it is just not a popular thing to do. its as simple as that

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