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Old Jan-15-2009, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Yagan Kiely View Post
OBVIOUSLY, what you said had absolutely nothing to do with what I said, and it certainly could never resemble anything similar to a response.... shouldn't you make a beeping noise?
Absolutely nothing? At least it was about Dvořák . I tell you exactly why I said it. You said: "Dvorak is an overrated composer, promotes purely because he wrote the New World symphony." I supposed that you was trying to say that Dvořák's reputation is based on one work. That's why I mentioned 7th symphony and Cello Concerto (could mention much more works).

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Just because (almighty) you think Dvorak is the bees knees (or whatever), does not make him the bestest in anything. Me saying he is overrated doesn't either, why are you insisting you are right and I am bias? It's amazingly hypocritical.
Now I can ask where I wrote something like this? I don't deem Dvořák to be bees knees at all. I insist I am right because I have ears and my opinion is supported by many other listeners, critics and musicians. Sincerely, your opinion "Dvořák does not have good melodies" is really unique (nonsense, in my opinion), so I am still waiting if you put some relevant arguments on the table. But I am afraid it is like waiting for Godot.

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And you are right in one sense, composer do look at compositions differently, mainly because they actually know more about them.
Maybe, but it has nothing to do with effort of objective evaluation of composers. I can paraphrase you: Just because (almighty) you think Dvořák is sub par (or whatever), does not make him bad in anything (including his exceptional melodic invention). He can be sub par composer, but in this aspect of composing he is on the top.

Brahms was also a composer and thought Dvořák had excellent melodic ideas. So don't arguments of composer's knowledge or education, because their reviews can be strictly different (beacuse their review is influenced by their own composition style preferences, that's what I'm speaking about and there is no personal attack in that, don't be paranoid.)
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