Classical Music Forums - Talk Classical  

Go Back   Classical Music Forums - Talk Classical > Musicians and Listeners Community > Musicians


Welcome to Talk Classical - A community covering every aspect of classical music!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, upload content and access many other features. Registration is absolutely free so please, join our classical music forums!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #76 (permalink)  
Old Jun-22-2008, 21:24
Artemis Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 67
Default

I think the suggestion that Daniel Barenboim's good reputation is undeserved and based on self-promotion is nonsense. As noted by others, one can't get to the top of any profession merely by "self-promotion", whatever that is supposed to mean. He is very highly regarded both by fellow professionals and the music buying public generally, and this has been the case for many years. I recently heard him being interviewed on a classical music radio programme, and I must say that I didn't find his personality all that endearing but this doesn't detract from my high estimation of his musical skills and achievements.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #77 (permalink)  
Old Jun-23-2008, 16:48
Yagan Kiely Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fremantle, WA, Australia
Posts: 344
Default

I was going to nominate Andre Rieu, but then I realised that meant classifying him as a performer of sorts.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #78 (permalink)  
Old Jul-09-2008, 08:22
shsherm Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 150
Default

Today I spoke with a retired woodwinds principal who played with the Chicago Symphony and I asked him his opinion of Daniel Barenboim. He told me he thought Barenboim was one of the greatest conductors and musicians he had ever worked with.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #79 (permalink)  
Old Jul-10-2008, 05:20
Havergal Offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 4
Default Barenboim

Mr. Barenboim has always worshipped Furtwangler. When he conducts, he says to himself " I want to conduct this as Furtwangler would." This had gone on for years but I believe he now conducts as himself! Unfortunately, the results are not good. Case in point: his recording of Tchaikovsky's 5th Symphony. As he explains in the liner notes, Tchaikovsky had no idea what he was composing when he decided to have a little pause right before the coda in the last movement. So what does Barenboim do? He eliminates it. Possibly the worst recorded performance ever of a Tchaikovsky Symphony. Also Barenboim "inherited" a great orchestra when he took over the Chicago Symphony. Out of the top 5 when he left it.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #80 (permalink)  
Old Jul-10-2008, 06:21
kiwipolish's Avatar
kiwipolish Offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 79
Default

I was about to write that I don't like Maximianno Cobra... but can he be called a musician?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #81 (permalink)  
Old Jul-10-2008, 06:30
World Violist's Avatar
World Violist Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 561
Send a message via Yahoo to World Violist
Default

I was quite shocked when I noticed his state of unmentionedness. I suppose for the same reason you question his belonging on this thread...

I think he regards music more as a thing to be played with, experimented with, seeing how far it can be taken. He has just taken it too far, to the point where it is, indeed, no longer musical. He used to be a musician, however... young, innocent, no idea of what he was to become.

But then, the state of being a "musician" is very subjective. You can't really draw a line of music vs. non-music. That would be trying to define music in words...
__________________
"Aufersteh'n, ja aufersteh'n
wirst du, mein Herz, in einem Nu!
Was du geschlagen
zu Gott wird es dich tragen!"
-Gustav Mahler
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #82 (permalink)  
Old Jul-13-2008, 12:19
Andante's Avatar
Andante Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 626
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
I think the suggestion that Daniel Barenboim's good reputation is undeserved and based on self-promotion is nonsense. As noted by others, one can't get to the top of any profession merely by "self-promotion", whatever that is supposed to mean. He is very highly regarded both by fellow professionals and the music buying public generally, and this has been the case for many years. I recently heard him being interviewed on a classical music radio programme, and I must say that I didn't find his personality all that endearing but this doesn't detract from my high estimation of his musical skills and achievements.
I couldn't agree with you more, you are so right, I have many of his recordings and I wonder if his critics are perhaps thinking of his break up with Jacqueline du Pre and casting judgment on that, I also wonder if the OP meant musically or personally dislike?
__________________
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #83 (permalink)  
Old Jul-22-2008, 21:36
airad2 Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 54
Angry

Quote:
Originally Posted by oisfetz View Post
Martha. Can't stand her. She always run.Maybe she has diarrhaoea every time she seats
at the piano,and must end the soon as posible to go to the bath.
I can't stand Martha haters. She's one of my biggest heroes.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #84 (permalink)  
Old Jul-22-2008, 21:38
airad2 Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 54
Default

I can't stand anne-sophie mutter, sorry but it's just my opinion. her vibrato! :P

For pianists, I just never understood what's the fuss about Alfred brendel.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #85 (permalink)  
Old Jul-28-2008, 09:25
Mayerl's Avatar
Mayerl Offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Doncaster UK
Posts: 43
Default

The fuss about Alfred Brendel is simply because, like many other pianists of his generation, he is a time-served, dedicated musician who has taken many, many years to learn his craft, and learn it well.
How many of the "Wunderkinder" of recent times, the competition winners, the finger technicians, will still be practicing their art in 50 years time.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #86 (permalink)  
Old Jul-31-2008, 01:10
Elaryad's Avatar
Elaryad Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 108
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kezza View Post
I don't get it.... lol?

Anyways I heard Yo-yo Ma play Shostakovich Cello No.1 concerto today on the radio and it sounded pretty pathetic tbh. I think he is just too gentle and elegant which is not how you play shosta from what I gather. The recording I have which is played by Han-Na Chang with LSO is much better. That Girl is crazy. Totally thrashes her Cello and it sounds SO good. Just like shosta should sound like. From what i've heard of yo-yo so far I haven'e been like OMFG he is awesome. Yes he is good. But not Jaw Droppingly good like Perlman on the violin. Love that guy
Hello Kezza. I was wondering... "I'm going to participate in this thread just to say that I didn't like to see Han-Na Chang performing the Shostakovich's 1st cello concerto".
But first, I agree with you, and I will go further and say that probably Yo Yo Ma will never understand Shostakovich. He is very sweet, elegant, gentle, not "in tune" with the russian soul. And otherwise Han-Na chang tries to catch that "soul", that "force", by... forcing it. And forcing it makes it ridiculous.
Now, I'm not in the position to say that I hate this or that musician. I'm far from it. I just didn't like Mrs. Chang performing this cello concerto. And I really think that Rostropovich's performance was not surpassed yet. This is only my opinion.

I'm sorry for my english.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #87 (permalink)  
Old Aug-02-2008, 11:55
jhar26's Avatar
jhar26 Online
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 186
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by airad2 View Post
I can't stand anne-sophie mutter, sorry but it's just my opinion. her vibrato! :P
I like her very much. She was the first violinist I got to know when I first got into classical music in the mid-80's. When I started to check out other violinists after that I couldn't believe how much more beautiful and 'big' Mutter's sound was compared to others. Although I have changed my opinion about those other violinists since then - on first hearing they all sounded second rate to me compared to her.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #88 (permalink)  
Old Aug-02-2008, 12:05
Elaryad's Avatar
Elaryad Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 108
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhar26 View Post
I like her very much. She was the first violinist I got to know when I first got into classical music in the mid-80's. When I started to check out other violinists after that I couldn't believe how much more beautiful and 'big' Mutter's sound was compared to others. Although I have changed my opinion about those other violinists since then - on first hearing they all sounded second rate to me compared to her.
It's similar to my "problem" with Rostropovich. I started to listen to classical music not a very long time ago and when I listen to other cellists I enjoy their performance but it's never the same to me.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #89 (permalink)  
Old Aug-03-2008, 00:34
Andante's Avatar
Andante Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 626
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by airad2 View Post
I can't stand anne-sophie mutter, sorry but it's just my opinion. her vibrato! :P
Her vibrato is one of the things that makes her individual sound and some find it a bit much, I have always admired her playing, by contrast listen to the Beethoven sonatas with Menuhin and Kempff, that is a sound of perfection, very slight vibrato, just right IMO
especially the "Kreutzer and the "Spring"
__________________
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
  #90 (permalink)  
Old Nov-28-2008, 23:32
confuoco's Avatar
confuoco Online
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Slovakia/Czech Republic (Brno)
Posts: 153
Send a message via ICQ to confuoco
Default

I hate recordings of german clarinetist Karl Leister. His tone is awful, eventless, uninspiring, especially unsuitable for Romantic works. I also hate vibrato of Richard Stoltzman and don't like Gary Dranch.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +1. The current date and time is Dec-04-2008 22:18.

Visit also: Classical Music Downloads | Magle - Contemporary Classical Composer, Organist and Pianist


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Site design by James Lee.
Magle International Music ApS © copyright 2006-2007 All Rights Reserved.
Page generated in 0.20247 seconds with 11 queries