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    Villa Lobos had been mentioned, I like all of them .

    There will be a Brahms string quartet performance http://www.sso.org.sg/index.php?opti...3981&Itemid=84, I will familiar myself with the piece and recall some details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odnoposoff View Post
    To anybody fond of Rusian-Ukranian chamber, I strongly recommend the string quartets of Arkady Fillipenko. Believe he had 4, only got 2, but both are just wanderful. Folk, romantic and very well written from one of dozens of unknown composers.
    Me 2! Mine has a cover of what looks like a Russian caravan teapot table cloth! It's very idiomatic and reassuringly Russian/Ukranian in character. Melodiya have some absolute treasures out there which I wish they would re-release on remastered format in my life time soon!

    The Georgians - Nasidze, and Tsintsadze are also worth discovering. Everyone has heard of Ciurlonis' from the other side of the ex-Soviet bloc for his 'The Sea' in the orchestral works, which is usually coupled with his string quartet.

    Has anyone got any more of the Arytemov string quartets? (sp). I liked the Peiko ones which I was given, and the ones I acquired.

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    Concerning Filippenko and others: some interesting reading here:
    http://www.cobbettassociation.org/pdf/Vol20-no1.pdf

    I only know / own commercial recordings of Quartets 2+4, but that site mentions quartet 1,2 and 3 as recorded by melodiya.
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    Has anyone got any more of the Arytemov string quartets? (sp).
    Are you perhaps thinking of Artyomov ? Apparently he wrote at least one; I´d certainly like to hear it, he is an interesting composer IMO.
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    That's him Joen!

    I had a disc of his choral music (Olympia Recordings) which I chucked as I purified my collection into string quartet music. It kind of made me think of that rather perjorative term 'holy minimalism' which bracketed him with his contemporaries like Kancheli, Part, Tuur etc although that was the days when music was borrowed from libraries.

    [Sidetrack On]Did his sonata for solo clarinet make an impression on you?[Sidetrack Off]

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    Concerning Filippenko and others: some interesting reading here:
    http://www.cobbettassociation.org/pdf/Vol20-no1.pdf
    That's fabulous. It was a bit of an exaggeration to call it the 'wilder side' of chamber music though lol. I had the Clara Schumann Trios (didn't get on with her!). The Hugo Kauder string quartets I have are by the Euclid Quartet. I'm struggling to recall the music at the moment. No unpleasant feelings arise from trying though, which is a good sign! I'm not a Herzogenberg fan much although Koessler's flute sheetmusic is slowly horrifying me less each day as I pluck up the Boehm to battle it. Love the detailed line drawing at the end of the article. That looks like one fantastic bassoon being wielded.

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    I thought I'd add this to the spirited discussion - a unique eBook about unjustly neglected string quartets is available for free from:

    www.forgottenstringquartets.com

    Yes I wrote it and I'm sure there's nothing else like it. Unlike a normal book where you'd just be reading about a piece, it contains listening links to YouTube videos so you can hear a work right away.

    It's amazing how many famous composers wrote quartets which are inexplicably neglected (eg. Schubert's 8th string quartet, as beautiful as the Trout Quintet).

    But of course there are unsung composers like Norbert Burgmüller, whom Schumann ranked alongside Schubert as a genius robbed from us by early death.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Head_case View Post
    That's him Joen!

    I had a disc of his choral music (Olympia Recordings) which I chucked as I purified my collection into string quartet music. It kind of made me think of that rather perjorative term 'holy minimalism' which bracketed him with his contemporaries like Kancheli, Part, Tuur etc although that was the days when music was borrowed from libraries.

    [Sidetrack On]Did his sonata for solo clarinet make an impression on you?[Sidetrack Off]
    I do have a fair deal of Artyomov, on Melodiya/Olympia, but a lot of his music has been issued by rather obscure labels in either the US or Russia, as far as I know. There´s a large "Requiem" for choir and orchestra too, but the recording and playing style is very noisy (on you-t too I think). He seems to meander between a lot of influences, also very expressive traits a la Schnittke. I don´t know the clarinet work, but there are some enchanting flute works ("The Nestling Ansali Bird", based on folk legends, "Moonlight Dreams" chamber cantata etc).

    Hugo Kauder is completely unknown to me - any good ?
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    I think Elizabeth Maconchy needs more attention from atonal music fans. Her SQ sound kind of "bartokian".


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    Hugo Kauder is completely unknown to me - any good ?
    I'd love to hear the Arytomov chamber works - at a time, Olympia seemed to be on the cusp of making his oeuvre widely available. Now we'll have to wait and see if Northern Flowers achieves this. The flute works are new to me; I have pretty good access to stores selling a huge range of manuscripts, and haven't come across any yet.


    Hugo Kauder (Moravian/Czech nowadays) is widely underrated for some known reasons. The Euclid Quartet, are relatively young, and incredible in their renditions of his 4 string quartets (he wrote 19, however the other 15 have yet to come alive). This doesn't help. Kauder's main trait, tends to be 'Kauderpoint' - which is what his students nicknamed him, for his counterpoint fluency. Listening to him, I think of the Russian Taneyev, however Kauder's main contribution extended at the fin de siècle issues with tonality; whereas the Teutonic-Wiener-Axis went into atonality, duodecaphony and dododedcadory before it matured into the second generation Viennese school, the other strand post-tonality explored neoclassicism, and the rhythmic motifs, like in Boulanger's larger scale works, through her pupils, and the Polish school (Bacewicz, Tansman); the Russian Futurists and Stravinsky's (non-string quartet) works.

    Kauder, is an enigma to me at this point. He seems to .... do neither. That is, he eschews the Teutonic rote formulation of the string quartet, remaining rooted in Jewish folklore and another integrity: his own voice. Whereas

    Listening to his four string quartets is a strange experience; for years, I pick it up, as if it is new and unknown to me; perhaps I have still not understood him. At once, tragic and melancholic, his music moves swiftly, rather like a more central European Schnitke, infusing other influences into his strongly wrought work. He's worthwhile discovering
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    I think Elizabeth Maconchy needs more attention from atonal music fans. Her SQ sound kind of "bartokian".
    We covered her in the British String Quartets thread briefly. I don't listen to her works very much.

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    Here again the Romantic composer that have enough set of string quartet and well round from no.1 to the last. Recommended for enthusiast of the era especially in string quartet. These are rarely popular, so I think lots of member here haven't dig into.

    W.Stenhammer String quartet - six string quartets. Oslo string quartet
    http://amzn.to/yoviFi

    Bazzini six string quartet - Venezia String quartet
    http://amzn.to/MaqyGH

    George Onslow string quartet - composed about 36 sq, about three volume by Mandelring string quartet and few other disc by others.
    http://amzn.to/OrUwIv

    Carl Loewe string quartet, lesser known, but there is two disc of Carl Loewe string quartets worth listening.
    http://amzn.to/SJkCYA

    Cherubini six String quartet, already mentioned by some of member here and quite popular. Recording by Melos sq and Quartetto David available.
    http://amzn.to/NzHysL

    Max Bruch, two string quartets , this is a newer recording of them by Mannheim sq. http://amzn.to/Q7kOTW

    Camille Saint Saens, big composer but his two string quartets falls into obscurity.
    http://amzn.to/LYAuHQ
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    I'm lucky to have all the works just mentioned.

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    I'm lucky I've avoided them all lol.

    Guess my taste is more 21st century.

    The microtonal (quarter and sixth tone) works of Alois Haba are just so unnervingly precise and subtle that the attention to microtones really mesmerises me.



    Goodbye even tempered system

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