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    The move by trumpeter Chris Martin from CSO to NYPO is curious. It is interesting to see how many trumpeters went from the Chicago SO, playing with the Herseth section, to principal positions in other major orchestras:

    Frank Kaderabek - to Philadelphia Orch
    Phil Smith - to NYPO
    George Vosburgh - to Pittsburgh SO
    Charles Geyer - to Houston SO
    Rudi Nashan - to Syracuse SO

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    I have yet to hear Chicago's brass section in-person but in recordings they are BOOMing especially under Solti (and they still are)

    In-concert:
    I recently heard Berlin in-concert when they came to Boston and played Mahler's 7th. Amazing.

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    Ok, yeah I'll admit Chicago might still have the best all around brass section (especially if you take into account French horns). I heard Chris Martin in NY a few times recently and he's sounding terrific (Handel's Messiah, Copland's Quiet City, Dvorak 8, Tchaik 4)—I only wonder if he'll stay permanently, because I heard he's technically on a trial year and is still performing part-time with the CSO.

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    Chicago Symphony.

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    About ten years ago, I attended my first Chicago concert. The program opened with a lesser known Kodaly piece. The horns' first entrance occurred a few minutes into the piece. But when they came in, on a fortissimo 4-part chord, the sound was so stunning that my jaw surely dropped.
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    NY Phil may not be there quite yet....But I heard Chis Martin play Ligeti in a NY Phil open rehearsal (terrific!) and again with the full orchestra in open rehearsal and the brass noticeably sounded a bit more like the Chicago Herseth brass. Time will tell the full impact of Martin, but off to a wonderful start.

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    When I was recently in Chicago and attended a Strauss/Bruckner concert, my feeling was that the brass was to blatant. My preference is for a great section which blends in with the rest of the orchestra so...
    Stefan Dohr, Fergus McWilliam, Stefan de Leval Jezierski and Sarah Willis
    Honorary mention to Klaus Wallendorf who just retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasks View Post
    The horns' first entrance occurred a few minutes into the piece. But when they came in, on a fortissimo 4-part chord, the sound was so stunning that my jaw surely dropped.
    Years ago - early 70s - We heard CSO @ Carnegie Hall - performing Ein Heldenleben....great performance all-around...
    one thing I remember so well - in the Battle scene climax - the entire horn section plays a passage that ascends in unison to a high "C" [concert F] -
    All nine horns nailed it perfectly - FFFFortissimo - incredible sound - I thought the roof of the hall would blow off!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiroptera View Post
    I have yet to hear Chicago's brass section in-person but in recordings they are BOOMing especially under Solti (and they still are).
    I have seen the CSO live twice- in 2013 I heard them play an all-Mozart program where the only brass players were two horns, so it was kind of disappointing even though one of them was Dale Clevenger. Featured two piano concertos performed by Mitsuko Uchida.
    The following year I saw them perform Tchaikovsky's Pathetique symphony. Saw ALL my idols including Chris Martin, Tage Larsen, Dale Clevenger, Jay Friedman, Mike Mulcahy, Gene Pokorny. Christoph von Dohnanyi was conducting. It was stellar and I'll never forget it.
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    I have to say -and it's down to personal preference- that I find the US school of horn players quite "brassy" as in bright, metallic and clear; this includes the instruments themselves that tend to favour these sounds.
    I have always preferred, as a horn player, the German sounds. But since I can tell that this is a matter of personal taste, I know that the horn sections of Chicago, Philadelphia etc are marvellous, all of them highly skilled players and, after having the opportunity to attend a masterclass with Dale Clevenger (Chicago), I learnt a lot from his high level of expertise.
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    Just heard 2 concerts by CSO...Rite of Spring and Petrushka....best live I've ever heard...orchestra is amazing....brass glorious...trumpets were superb...principal for both series was Tom Hooten...tptI..LAPO....who I believe is a candidate for the CSO job...great player...never missed..big sound...smooth technique...I hope CSO hires him...:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordontrek View Post
    3. Cincinnati Symphony/Pops, Erich Kunzel
    You might not have been expecting this one, but Cincinnati has a seriously good brass section, and I'm surprise by how many recordings of theirs I've ended up choosing, especially from the Kunzel years.
    I'm glad you mentioned them. A while ago I was looking for a recording of the Festive Overture, and nothing rang my chimes until I hit on Kunzel/Cincinnati. They hadn't been on my radar until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    I'm glad you mentioned them. A while ago I was looking for a recording of the Festive Overture, and nothing rang my chimes until I hit on Kunzel/Cincinnati. They hadn't been on my radar until then.
    Cincinnati is very good...the first trumpet for those recordings, I believe, was Phil Collins....I went to school with him...great player...really topnotch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    I'm glad you mentioned them. A while ago I was looking for a recording of the Festive Overture, and nothing rang my chimes until I hit on Kunzel/Cincinnati. They hadn't been on my radar until then.
    Indeed, that recording of Festive Overture (on the album Symphonic Spectacular) has yet to be matched by any other recording I've heard. I suggest you check out their Aaron Copland album (their Fanfare for the Common Man is absolutely jaw dropping) and their Tchaikovsky 1812 album for some of the best examples of their playing. The CPO under Kunzel was really a superb and overlooked orchestra.
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