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    He plays a Bechstein, not HIP I think, it's a modern piano but it sounds warmer then a Steinway, less "metallic" and less cristal-clear sounding. Before this recording I only had a Wilhelm Kempff complete cycle, which sounds to me a bit too dynamic in recording, some sounds are just painful to my ears. So it was a real revelation to hear El Bacha's cycle and only then I really started to enjoy the sonatas. I think El Bacha's performance is also technically superior to Kempff although now I can also appreciate Kempffs more dynamic style, maybe more how Beethoven would've liked it
    Thank you for this reply, I do have a friend who owns this set, I give him a ring and try to borrow it from him.
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    I am feeling very pleased today as I just managed to pick up an 8 CD copy of the complete Beethoven piano sonatas by Schnabel on the Nuova Era label. I've been looking for this one for quite a while and I can confirm that it blows away the EMI 8 CD set in terms of sound quality as there's much more high end. However, do any afficionados of Ludwig's piano sonatas out there have the Nuova Era set and another that they think sounds even better? If so, what label is it on? I've heard the Pearl and Testament versions are pretty good but have never seen any copies. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razumovskymas View Post
    He plays a Bechstein, not HIP I think, it's a modern piano but it sounds warmer then a Steinway, less "metallic" and less cristal-clear sounding. Before this recording I only had a Wilhelm Kempff complete cycle, which sounds to me a bit too dynamic in recording, some sounds are just painful to my ears. So it was a real revelation to hear El Bacha's cycle and only then I really started to enjoy the sonatas. I think El Bacha's performance is also technically superior to Kempff although now I can also appreciate Kempffs more dynamic style, maybe more how Beethoven would've liked it.

    Apart from these two I also have a Claudio Arrau cycle and all the sonatas that Glen Gould recorded. I haven't really listened a lot to the Arrau but what I can remember is that he does some interesting stuff now and then with rhythm and tempi and that I don't like the sound of his nails ticking on the keys :-)

    And Glenn Gould....wel yeah, I really love his Bach and Baroque stuff but what he does with Beethoven is not really in the spirit of Beethoven I think. It's very interesting to listen to and can be a nice addition if you heard some other cycles but sometimes you get the feeling that he's mocking with a piece (which he actually did with his version of the Appassionata because he didn't like that sonata but his record company wanted him to record it). To my opinion, his versions ad some new light but at the same time take more light away. I have the same feeling with his Mozart sonatas. I'm not really a connaisseur of the Mozart sonata's but I have the feeling Gould plays them much too fast (and I'm someone who likes things fast usually)
    I finally met my friend who own this , so now I can start listing.
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    I enjoy Barenboim's playing a lot. His playing is fantastic.

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    Les adieux: Robert Casadesus (1930s)
    Moonlight: Josef Hofmann (1930s)
    Waldstein: Vladimir Ashkenazy (1950s)
    Appassionata: Wiatcheslaw Witkowsky (1940s, 1st mvt. only)

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    The Witkowsky is interesting and I like it. Another 1940s first movement only recording which is similar in style is Myra Hess' which an also be found on Youtube. You actually see her playing for wartime audiences in LondonI would love it if the other two movements were found. Fiorentino also had a similar one that floated around on the web for a while but it seems to have vanished. And finally, Rubinstein's classic 1945 recording. You just wouldn't believe that this was "Ruby" playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Many years ago I went to some Alfred Brendel master classes in London. Of course he was telling the students things that were way above me but it was fascinating to hear him.
    Andras Schiff did a series of extensive lectures in advance of his performances of the entire cycle at Wigmore Hall. They were directed to the general public, so they are not that technical. You can find them here.

    I'm currently in the process of listening to 5 cycles, one movement at a time (Kempff mono, Brendel second, Goode, Arrau and Annie Fischer). Each day I listen to the relevant portion of Schiff's lecture (and read the relevant excerpt from Charles Rosen's book), and then listen to the 5 different performances of one movement (trying to follow along with the sheet music). I'm currently on Op. 10 No. 2, so I have a ways to go. Don't ask me who my favorite is. It varies from day to day - movement to movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Don't ask me who my favorite is. It varies from day to day - movement to movement.
    This is completely natural.

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