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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    Toscanini is crazy good (1.21.51). He shouts! ha ha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDbMzp86tOc

    For more "normal" listening (rec.1984)...

    I like his earlier recording much more, this is one made just for the making of digital era.
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    I have Barbirolli, Giulini, Solti and Muti in Cd. watched in youtube Abbado (gheorghiu, Barcellona, allagna... BPO), Abbado/LSO with M Price, Muti/CSO, Bychkov BBCSO.

    I would chose Giulini (like Becca).

    Abbado/BPO with The Orfeón Donostiarra is wonderful and Bychkov's recording (proms) is very good.

    I promise to listen to Reiner (first option of Pugg). If this Is his choice, it must be a good version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lluissineu View Post
    I have Barbirolli, Giulini, Solti and Muti in Cd. watched in youtube Abbado (gheorghiu, Barcellona, allagna... BPO), Abbado/LSO with M Price, Muti/CSO, Bychkov BBCSO.

    I would chose Giulini (like Becca).

    Abbado/BPO with The Orfeón Donostiarra is wonderful and Bychkov's recording (proms) is very good.

    I promise to listen to Reiner (first option of Pugg). If this Is his choice, it must be a good version.
    Now I am curious about your verdict
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    I know sound is important, but even so, Toscanini should be heard. He was one of the greatest of Verdi conductors....perhaps THE greatest.

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    My pick for the best soprano for Verdi's Requiem is Leontyne Price. The opening theme of the whole piece (in A minor, played by cello) returns in B flat minor at the third part of "Libera me" (bar 132), sung by Soprano in ppp, accompanied only by the chorus. This is the place I decide whether I like the soprano or not. Leontyne Price is superb here, giving me goose bumps every time I hear this section.

    Price recorded Requiem at least 7 times: with Ormandy (1957), Reiner (1960), Karajan (1967), Solti (1977), Matačić (1979), Levine (1982) and López-Cobos (1983). I only listened to 4 of these yet, but my pick is with Solti. I'm glad to see some of these recordings are picked by others here. Yeah!!

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    Just listened to Reiner /wiener P. (With L. Price). Pugg, Thanks for discovering this version to me. Sound Is incredible for a 1960 recording. The orchestra is superb. Reiner knows how to build an almost perfect masterpiece.

    I agree with Satoru about L. Price.

    But...

    Listening to Verdi's requiem Is mainly emocional for me. I need to cry, to feel sadness, anger... And that's why I need Giulini. I enjoyed Reiner's and even I'd recommend it as a superb version, but if I want to feel all these emotions, then I need Giulini/philharmonia O. Schwarzkopf/ludwig... (Even admitting that L. Price Is unbeatable).

    I watched both Abbado's 'libera me' (LSO with The welch Price -margaret- and Berlin PO with A gheorghiu.) It's always shocked me The way she says The last 'libera me domine de morte aeterna in die illa tremenda'. Many sopranos seem to ask for mercy or to be praying, but Gheorghiu is scared and demands it, showing desperation. Love it.

    Toscanini will be my next go (following hpowders advice).

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    Just listened to Reiner /wiener P. (With L. Price). Pugg, Thanks for discovering this version to me. Sound Is incredible for a 1960 recording. The orchestra is superb. Reiner knows how to build an almost perfect masterpiece.

    I agree with Satoru about L. Price.
    It is alright, we all see / hear things in another perspective, as for demanding in the libera me , try Scotto on the Muti set .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    It is alright, we all see / hear things in another perspective, as for demanding in the libera me , try Scotto on the Muti set .
    Yeah, I listened to Muti/Scotto and it's dramatic. I also listened to the Reiner/Price recording. Oh my, it was superb! Price's voice and the sound are both great. Thanks for the introduction.

    PS. There is a mistake in the above list of Verdi Requiem recordings with L. Price. The last was not Leontyne but Margaret Price. Stupid me ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by satoru View Post
    Yeah, I listened to Muti/Scotto and it's dramatic. I also listened to the Reiner/Price recording. Oh my, it was superb! Price's voice and the sound are both great. Thanks for the introduction.

    PS. There is a mistake in the above list of Verdi Requiem recordings with L. Price. The last was not Leontyne but Margaret Price. Stupid me ...
    On you tube is a Karajan recording with L price and Pavarotti, check that one out also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    A pinch of salt on Amazon reviewers is necessary.
    True, but there are some amazing reviewers on Amazon. When I'm ready to purchase an unfamiliar piece or a piece I would like another recording of, I check out 7 or 8 or so regular reviewers who's tastes are simpatico with mine, and make a purchasing decision based on that.

    It took a long time to find a bunch of (good and thorough) reviewers that I found have similar tastes, but now that I have them, I refer to them often and it saves me a lot of time. More often than not, I am not disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    True, but there are some amazing reviewers on Amazon. When I'm ready to purchase an unfamiliar piece or a piece I would like another recording of, I check out 7 or 8 or so regular reviewers who's tastes are simpatico with mine, and make a purchasing decision based on that.

    It took a long time to find a bunch of (good and thorough) reviewers that I found have similar tastes, but now that I have them, I refer to them often and it saves me a lot of time. More often than not, I am not disappointed.

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    I agree. Some of the Amazon reviewers are extraordinary, a couple of them, TC members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Gardiner - period instruments - really top notch.
    Another vote for the Gardiner set - it's my favourite overall, I think. Not only a fine rendition of the Requiem, but the Quattro Pezzi Sacri "filler" is a great bonus.

    Of the "classic" recordings, it's probably the Reiner (Price, Björling etc) for me. Of more recent vintage, I really enjoyed Antonio Pappano's rendition on EMI/Warner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varick View Post
    True, but there are some amazing reviewers on Amazon. When I'm ready to purchase an unfamiliar piece or a piece I would like another recording of, I check out 7 or 8 or so regular reviewers who's tastes are simpatico with mine, and make a purchasing decision based on that.

    It took a long time to find a bunch of (good and thorough) reviewers that I found have similar tastes, but now that I have them, I refer to them often and it saves me a lot of time. More often than not, I am not disappointed.

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    I'd probably go with Giulini/Philharmonia (1962)

    ...though it's a crowded field, and based on the users here, I'm going to have to check out Reiner's rendition.

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    Any set with the name "Toscanini" written on the cover for performance.

    I would rather compromise on the recording to listen to communicative musical greatness any day.
    Last edited by hpowders; Mar-27-2017 at 22:06.

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