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    Quote Originally Posted by mueske View Post
    Curse my headache, I haven't been able to think clear all day long!

    No you shouldn't, it's my fault I'm not in the best of health today and it's influencing my ability to think clearly.
    Ah, all is good in the world!
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    Default More C2oth epic music

    Here's some more C20th epic music that I've been able to come up with:

    Bartok - Concerto for Orchestra
    Bax - Tintagel (tone poem)
    Copland - Billy the Kid
    Janacek - Taras Bulba; Sinfonietta

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    I was reading along this thread and getting more and more confused... and then, I started laughing and I just had to make myself stop, get a breath of air, and say thanks to all of you. Gee, these classical music types are just so-o-o stuffy and serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Here's some more C20th epic music that I've been able to come up with:

    Bartok - Concerto for Orchestra
    Bax - Tintagel (tone poem)
    Copland - Billy the Kid
    Janacek - Taras Bulba; Sinfonietta
    Tintagel? Dark and agressive? Naw. Powerful, yes, but not dark. I see it more as a grand statement of light and beauty, not of darnkess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David C Coleman View Post
    Well I guess there's only a limited amount of DARK, DEPRESSIVE, LOUD, ANGRY sounding classical music around! maybe we should try and pursuade MHWLC to be more flexible!!:angry:

    Haha, I have just been looking for some that match my description but very few have really met it so far. I have listened to a great deal of classical from other emotions like happiness, sadness, etc., just barely the one I am looking for now.
    "When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Ludwig van Beethoven

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    Speaking of the adjective "angry," one work that comes to mind is the Organ Concerto of Icelandic composer Jon Leifs. This is brutal work with aggressive organ playing, complete with grinding dissonances and tone clusters and shockingly loud purcussion whacks that sound like small cannons. This is a work where I really do feel a sense of anger, as opposed to just showy brutality. I guess when it premiered on Germany in the 1930s (I think that's the decade...I'll have to research the liner notes) that it started with a packed house only to end up being nearly empty as the work concluded...people were walking out in droves.

    While not beautiful in a traditional sense, and not easy on the ears, it retains a primitive fascination and I like it quite a bit. There is a more lyrical middle section, though, which offers a breather between the out movements, which are quite overwhelming.

    If I have a bad day at work, I like blasting this one and it delivers good catharsis.
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    Tapkaara:

    I'm still waiting on reply as to where you read that Saint-Saens was a sado-masochist? I find that hard to believe without some concrete proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    Tintagel? Dark and agressive? Naw. Powerful, yes, but not dark. I see it more as a grand statement of light and beauty, not of darnkess.
    I said that it was epic, which it is. Otherwise I agree with you, it is light and beautiful indeed.

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    I would also put Rued Langgaard in the powerful, epic, angry, intense category in addition to Mahler.

    If you haven't heard Langgaard, then you're ears will be in for quite a treat coming March 31st when his symphonies will be together in a box set on the Da Capo label.

    It's going to be a thing of beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTech82 View Post
    Tapkaara:

    I'm still waiting on reply as to where you read that Saint-Saens was a sado-masochist? I find that hard to believe without some concrete proof.
    It's a joke, my friend...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    I said that it was epic, which it is. Otherwise I agree with you, it is light and beautiful indeed.
    Gotcha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    It's a joke, my friend...!
    Oh, well in that case that's pretty darn funny. It's hard to tell if someone is joking or not on the internet.

    In any case, I love Saint-Saens. I don't know this for a fact, but I think there was definitely something "off" about him. He's such a great composer though.

    Carnival of the Animals is a good example, but so is Danse Macabre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalheadwholovesclasical View Post
    Haha, I have just been looking for some that match my description but very few have really met it so far. I have listened to a great deal of classical from other emotions like happiness, sadness, etc., just barely the one I am looking for now.
    MHWLC, If you want some of the music you are describing, generally find Requiem Masses by several composers, Berlioz, Verdi, Dvorak etc. OK they are pretty long pieces and I always think it's sacrilage to pick movements out of these works of art. But music that deals with death and Hell, ain't gonna be light and happy pieces!!!..happy listening..

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    Again, as I said, Mahler and Langgaard personify the music you are requesting, Metalhead.

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    Personally, I think one ought to go in pursuit of music because of its aesthetic quality, rather than treating it like some mood-altering drug.*

    For example, I can listen to some happy-clappy-crappy pop music but my reaction is one of discomfort and unhappiness. On the other hand, I can listen to a melancholy piece of classical music and feel edified and generally better. And on the other hand, I can listen to some metal deperately trying to be serious, dark and disturbing, and the result sounds comical.

    *Personally I find actual drugs are better for this.
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