… The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity. William Butler Yeats
As far as I can tell Beethoven's over all sound was mostly influenced by Handel, CPE Bach and Haydn.
I don't think Beethoven really had a strong affinity for the music of J.S. Bach or Mozart regardless of the lip service.
Last edited by tdc; Jan-11-2017 at 07:26.
His piano sonata Hob. XVI:52 is a case in point. In this sonata, Haydn makes use of abrupt modulations and cadenza-like passagework. The overall mood is dramatic and turbulent.
Do you mean these are "as dark, daring and turbulent as Don Giovanni"?
Last edited by jdec; Jan-11-2017 at 23:13.
I find Mozart's music over all more expressive than Haydn's. Not to diminish Haydn's extraordinary achievements but I feel Mozart was just more adept at expressing the range of emotions, from darkness to joy.
The fact he was less directly influential on Beethoven to me does not diminish his achievements one iota.
Beethoven while certainly not being completely a populist composer, was closer to one than Mozart and I think Beethoven identified more with populist composers like Handel and Haydn.
I think sometimes certain composers (ie. J.S. Bach and Mozart) essentially perfect a style therefore are not directly influential to composers in their era very much simply because no one can come close to duplicating what they did. Therefore the only choice the next generation of composers have is to go in a different direction and build on something they can work with.