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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    I think that illiteracy comment was aimed at arnerich...
    Of course it was! My mistake and all due apologies to lextune for my more-haste-less-speed misunderstanding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnerich View Post
    Speaking of my illiteracy... "sonata" is misspelt in the topic title... just saying
    Yeah. It's too bad one can't edit mistakes made in thread titles. I'm sure the originator of this thread did try.

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    Geza Anda - Liszt Sonata in B minor
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    The first recording I ever heard of the B Minor Sonata was the 1932 Horowitz one, which immediately got me hooked, this was 36 years ago, and I've loved the sonata ever since. I wouldn't want to be without that 1932 recording, or the 1976 one, though I know the general consensus is that it's more mannered, but I still find it very exciting, and in places it has a grandeur that I've not heard in any other recording, there's also the unedited live recording from 1976 in the big Sony box of Horowitz's recitals, which is quite different in many respects.
    Another favourite live performance is that by Claudio Arrau on Orfeo, this was given at the Salzburg Festival in 1982, and is absolutely superb, even better, in my opinion, than Arrau's justly famed studio recording on Philips.
    Of the pianists I've heard play the sonata live, three stand out in my mind: Shura Cherkassky (there's a live performance on Decca), who I heard give a blistering account of it in 1995 only a few months before his death. Yevgeny Kissin, who I heard play it in 1998, he really should record it, in fact he should record a lot more Liszt, he is a really splendid Liszt player (try the selection of Transcendental Studies that are coupled with his account of the Schumann Fantasy.) And last, but by no means least, Louis Kentner, who I heard play it at the Queen Elizabeth Hall in 1985 as part of his 80th birthday recital. He had a wonderful grasp of the architecture of the piece and like Kissin, was a supreme Lisztian. APR have recently released his 1948 recording of the sonata, the first time it's been available since it's initial very limited run when it was first released in 1950, it is absolutely wonderful and demands to be heard (it's also coupled with equally fine performances of the Balakirev Piano Sonata and Liapounov Transcendental Studies, so duplicating the Liszt gives you some other very fine piano rarities, in performances of the greatest distinction.)
    Then I mustn't forget the pioneering recording by Alfred Cortot, listening to which alone should put paid to any doubting Thomases who still feel that Cortot had insufficient technique. Jorge Bolet is another that I wouldn't want to be without, likewise I've always enjoyed the Argerich recording, though it is a bit breathless and not one I'd want to listen to every day of the week, but to conclude with, another wonderful lady pianist I must make mention of Edith Farnadi. She made a series of recordings of Liszt's piano music for Westminster in the 1950s that are outstanding in every way, and the B Minor Sonata is no exception, everything she does seems intrinsically right, and this is a performance that I have returned to again and again and never been disappointed with, it is a tragedy that most of Farnadi's recordings have not been available since the early 1960s, she was a superb pianist and deserves to be far better remembered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShropshireMoose View Post
    Then I mustn't forget the pioneering recording by Alfred Cortot, listening to which alone should put paid to any doubting Thomases who still feel that Cortot had insufficient technique. Jorge Bolet is another that I wouldn't want to be without, likewise I've always enjoyed the Argerich recording, though it is a bit breathless and not one I'd want to listen to every day of the week, but to conclude with, another wonderful lady pianist I must make mention of Edith Farnadi. She made a series of recordings of Liszt's piano music for Westminster in the 1950s that are outstanding in every way, and the B Minor Sonata is no exception, everything she does seems intrinsically right, and this is a performance that I have returned to again and again and never been disappointed with, it is a tragedy that most of Farnadi's recordings have not been available since the early 1960s, she was a superb pianist and deserves to be far better remembered.
    So happy that you mentioned Cortot, the absolute favorite of mine; he was in really good shape when recording this sonata. I don't want to argue that Cortot technique is transcendental, but he has transcendental technique to best convey his visions (the same for Artur Schnabel). In this B minor sonata, his command of colors and dynamics is amazing.

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    Currently I side with the recent 2013 recording by Alexei Grynyuk, though Arrau's live 70s rendition never leaves my mind. I very strongly recommend Grynyuk's to anyone who hasn't heard it. It is transcendent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AfterHours View Post
    Currently I side with the recent 2013 recording by Alexei Grynyuk, though Arrau's live 70s rendition never leaves my mind. I very strongly recommend Grynyuk's to anyone who hasn't heard it. It is transcendent.
    Do you mean this one:

    http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/O...sics/ORC100031
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Yeah that's the one. Available on Spotify, and if necessary, YouTube:

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    While I was reading the massive Alan Walker Liszt biography over the winter, I listened to a great many B minor sonatas from a multitude of pianists blind (I didn't check who was playing until the end of each one). One surprising rendition that I found particularly good, especially in rendering the sonata as a cohesive whole, was that from Jenö Jandó on Naxos. He found a way to make the sonata seem organic to me in a way that no one else has. Not particularly brilliant or flashy, but it made a great deal of sense to me. YMMV, but don't dismiss him just because he churns out a lot of material for a budget label.

    I like Argerich's first version and Trifonov's quite a lot as well but that ground has already been adequately covered.
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    One of my favourite pieces. Haven't heard a gazillion interpretations, but Arrau seems clearly the best to me. No one's mentioned Bolet, though?

    Oh, and "Liszt's Piano Sonta" has a very unfortunate meaning in my native language... hope someone changes it.
    Wäre das Faktum wahr, – wäre der außerordentliche Fall wirklich eingetreten, daß die politische Gesetzgebung der Vernunft übertragen, der Mensch als Selbstzweck respektiert und behandelt, das Gesetz auf den Thron erhoben, und wahre Freiheit zur Grundlage des Staatsgebäudes gemacht worden, so wollte ich auf ewig von den Musen Abschied nehmen, und dem herrlichsten aller Kunstwerke, der Monarchie der Vernunft, alle meine Thätigkeit widmen.

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