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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Scarlatti K 544 maybe, and possibly k 481.
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    Some of it may have been intended for piano.
    But just as much as this is true, the music was not intended for modern Steinway and sons, but for early fortepiano, an instrument with quite another sound and other properties than the Steinway. However it can not be denied, that some of Scarlattis sonatas sound equally well on fortepiano as on harpsichord. But this does not imply, that they sound well on Steinway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    I have yet to hear a baroque piece that didn't sound better to me on the piano! I do enjoy well-recorded harpsichord from a purely audiophile perspective, though.
    I have yet to hear a baroque piece, that didn't sound better to me on the harpsichord. But I do enjoy well-recorded Steinway from a purely audiophile perspective, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by premont View Post
    But just as much as this is true, the music was not intended for modern Steinway and sons, but for early fortepiano, an instrument with quite another sound and other properties than the Steinway. However it can not be denied, that some of Scarlattis sonatas sound equally well on fortepiano as on harpsichord. But this does not imply, that they sound well on Steinway.
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    This is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by premont View Post
    But just as much as this is true, the music was not intended for modern Steinway and sons, but for early fortepiano, an instrument with quite another sound and other properties than the Steinway. However it can not be denied, that some of Scarlattis sonatas sound equally well on fortepiano as on harpsichord. But this does not imply, that they sound well on Steinway.


    This is true. I was thinking of the sort of piano that Enrico Baiano uses.

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    I dislike all baroque keyboard music on piano because to me it sounds horrible.

    Strictly a harpsichord guy.

    However if someone put a gun to my head, and I had to recommend baroque piano, otherwise I would be killed, I would say the music that sounds least offensive to these ears (still mildly horrible!) would be the Scarlatti Keyboard Sonatas in the right hands, such as the one's that belonged to Horowitz.

    Take the gun away and I'm back to preaching that Scarlatti sounds best on harpsichord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    I dislike all baroque keyboard music on piano because to me it sounds horrible.
    Yes, and note that the initiator of this thread called it:

    Baroque keyboard music that translates best on piano.

    This word "translates" says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by premont View Post
    Yes, and note that the initiator of this thread called it:

    Baroque keyboard music that translates best on piano.

    This word "translates" says it all.
    Translates best: Probably Scarlatti Keyboard Sonatas played crisply and without pedal. The use of the pedal doesn't translate well to baroque keyboard works. Nothing turns me off more.
    When you don't know what you're saying, you take a long time to say it. When you know what you're saying, you get pithy.

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    The instrument is only a vehicle for musical performance and expression. But I bet if Bach and Scarlatti were alive today and they were given a beautiful Steinway piano, they'd play it a hell of alot more than those 18th century relics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    The instrument is only a vehicle for musical performance and expression. But I bet if Bach and Scarlatti were alive today and they were given a beautiful Steinway piano, they'd play it a hell of alot more than those 18th century relics.
    Well, what vehicle you choose does matter. Try taking a long trip in this car if you don't think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoFlutesOneTrumpet View Post
    Well, what vehicle you choose does matter. Try taking a long trip in this car if you don't think so

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    Yeah, that was my point. I did mention a Steinway piano compared to a 300 hundred year old keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    The instrument is only a vehicle for musical performance and expression. But I bet if Bach and Scarlatti were alive today and they were given a beautiful Steinway piano, they'd play it a hell of alot more than those 18th century relics.
    I bet you 500 gulden that they would prefer ye olde clavichorde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronochromie View Post
    I bet you 500 gulden that they would prefer ye olde clavichorde.
    Why, there's an easy way to settle this wager. Let me bring those two back from the dead. Will let you know what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoFlutesOneTrumpet View Post
    Why, there's an easy way to settle this wager. Let me bring those two back from the dead. Will let you know what they say.
    Should be easy enough, there's many necromancers around on this forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Translates best: Probably Scarlatti Keyboard Sonatas played crisply and without pedal. The use of the pedal doesn't translate well to baroque keyboard works. Nothing turns me off more.
    You might like Schiff's recent cycle. He doesn't use the pedal.

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