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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Yes. The first movement solo is a well-known oboe audition piece, but to call it an oboe concerto is simply not accurate.
    Well, maybe I was exaggerating [just a little... ] but it is a major work for oboe -

    Oh - another Stravinsky piece - with very important solos for select instruments - "Pulcinella" - major solos for oboe, bassoon, also big solos for 2ble bass, trombone.

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    Yes and what about Stravinsky's L'Histoire du Soldat.

    If the first violinist calls in with the flu, the performance must be canceled!
    When you don't know what you're saying, you take a long time to say it. When you know what you're saying, you get pithy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Yes and what about Stravinsky's L'Histoire du Soldat.

    If the first violinist calls in with the flu, the performance must be canceled!
    Of course, but that's really a chamber work - one player per part....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heck148 View Post
    "I'll nominate Rachmaninoff yet again - sorry folks.
    The whole movement stands or falls on how well that lonely clarinet sets the mood."

    Sorry, hardly comparable to Bolero, or Scheherezade, which rise or fall on the orchesra soloists, as a group.

    "Listen to the 3rd (slow) movement of his 2nd Symphony."

    not if I can help it.
    A chacun son gout!

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    Debussy's Prelude To The Afternoon Of A Faun dies with a bad flutist for me.

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    Take the principal flute away from Ravel's Daphnis and Chloe, you've got a problem. Play it very, very slowly. Stall for time 'til he/she gets back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heck148 View Post
    Of course, but that's really a chamber work - one player per part....
    I didn't think anyone would actually read my post and notice.
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    All the winds-principal clarinet, flute, oboe and bassoon are individual stars in Shostakovich's Fourth Symphony, which for me is really more a concerto for orchestra than a symphony.
    Last edited by hpowders; Jan-09-2017 at 18:59.
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    If the orchestral pianist doesn't show up for Bartok's Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta re-program to his Concerto for Orchestra.
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    Too numerous to mention. The fastidious conductor will assure in rehearsal, and with sound engineer for recordings. I might add, over-emphasis is as bad, if not worse, than underplay.

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    If the tympanist has a MD appointment and will have to miss the Schumann Second Symphony performance, think up an alternative ending. The audience wouldn't have a clue anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    If the tympanist has a MD appointment and will have to miss the Schumann Second Symphony performance, think up an alternative ending. The audience wouldn't have a clue anyway.
    ha ha Where's that triangle, I saw it a minute ago. Enough, let's stay serious.


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    There is a huge cor anglais solo in the first movement of Shostakovich's 8th symphony, and a very tricky French horn solo in the first movement of the 5th which involves a very high note.
    What about the snare drum in Nielsens clarinet concerto; does that count?
    There will come a time soon when Youtube won't let us do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by techniquest View Post
    There is a huge cor anglais solo in the first movement of Shostakovich's 8th symphony,
    Yes - it goes on for about 4-5' straight!! DS also wrote a long one for CA in Symphony #11..He wrote some nice, lengthy bassoon solos , too.

    What about the snare drum in Nielsens clarinet concerto; does that count?
    both the clarinet and snare drum are ost important in Nielsen Sym #5.

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    both the clarinet and snare drum are ost important in Nielsen Sym #5.
    That's true - and we could also cite the timpani in Nielsens 4th
    There will come a time soon when Youtube won't let us do this...

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