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    Hi Everyone,

    This is a thread for the discussion of 21st century music. It's just a place to mention all sorts of news, including recent compositions, composers and works you've discovered, intriguing genres, new instruments, award announcements, album releases, premieres, favorite new music blogs, etc. Youtube clips and article links are great if you've got them.

    There are similar threads on the board: some focus on particular genres, and most of them ask for favorites. Feel free to link to interesting posts on other threads. I hope this one will be a casual and easy-going thread that can gather information and ideas that don't fit very well elsewhere.

    A word about etiquette: this is emphatically not a debate thread. If anyone posts music you dislike or inflammatory polemics, please do not engage with them (if something is way over the line, report it). It would be nice if there were no negativity at all. I'd like it if people felt comfortable mentioning 21st-century music of any style.



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    A few introductory links for newcomers to contemporary music:


    Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st-c...lassical_music

    Alex Ross: http://www.therestisnoise.com/2006/0...sic_links.html

    Ross has fairly comprehensive lists of esteemed contemporary composers and ensembles.

    Tom Service: https://www.theguardian.com/music/se...lassical-music

    In a popular series, Service chose 50 composers to try to "tell the story of the contemporary music scene." It does not have many active composers, though it could serve as useful background.

    schigolch: http://www.talkclassical.com/16411-c...ary-opera.html

    Finally, I thought I'd mention a great, long-running thread managed by our own schigolch, which provides information about contemporary operas.

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    I hope that some people will enjoy the thread--thanks for participating!

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    http://www.sikorski.de/2/en/news.html
    Here's a small start on news from publisher Sikorski. I sometimes check out major publishers for news and profiled composers. Also post a link to a youtube channel that's pretty interesting https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDQ...768JjHJ8CIhtRw
    Peace & love!

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    Great thread idea. I hope this continues to grow with people adding links to music, resources, information, etc.. One of my favorite TC threads concerning contemporary music is New Generations. Not all the music listed is 21st century, but essentially all composers are contemporary.

    Also I'd like to mention the radio station WQXR Q2. It plays and discusses contemporary music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    One of my favorite TC threads concerning contemporary music is New Generations... Also I'd like to mention the radio station WQXR Q2. It plays and discusses contemporary music.
    Here's a link to a similar online station called Counterstream Radio:

    https://www.newmusicusa.org/counterstream-radio/

    I came to know the music of many of the young composers mentioned in the thread you linked to on this station.

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    By very rough estimate my collection is about 55% 20th century, 40% 19th century and 5% for the rest. Within that last 5% are a number of 21st century pieces in various styles which have made it into the semi-regular listening.

    In no particular order..

    James MacMillan
    Piano concerto #2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdCWOQuXNSI
    Violin Concerto - https://open.spotify.com/album/4gssUEvGq3A9FXZjbKSOHt

    Peter Maxwell Davies
    Symphony #10 - "Alla ricerca di Borromini" - https://open.spotify.com/album/5r0QJBBT0VO2lx5ouvfPYY

    Hans Abrahamsen
    let me tell you - song cycle for soprano and orchestra - https://vimeo.com/87479607

    Jennifer Higdon
    City Scape - for orchestra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kygq6UPj0Ak

    Gerald Barry
    The Importance of Being Earnest - two act opera based on the Oscar Wilde play - https://open.spotify.com/album/37FZ6HbfiKOzJMVpI9zwC6

    Henri Dutilleux
    Correspondances - song cycle for soprano and orchestra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ5Mjtzehvw

    Esa-Pekka Salonen
    L.A. Variations - for orchestra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygK8udsTHs
    - this is actually from 1997 but quite representative of Salonen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmsbls View Post
    Also I'd like to mention the radio station WQXR Q2. It plays and discusses contemporary music.
    This station did a year-end countdown of listeners' favorite works of the last 20 years. There are a handful of pieces I'm unfamiliar with--I look forward to giving them a try. For anyone interested:

    50. Louis Andriessen — La Passione
    49. Enno Poppe — Keilschrift
    48. Thomas Ades — Tevot
    47. Kaija Saariaho — Orion
    46. Sofia Gubaidulina — In tempus praesens
    45. Donnacha Dennehy — That the Night Come
    44. Esa Pekka Salonen — Violin Concerto
    43. Sarah Kirkland Snider — Unremembered
    42. Ann Southam — Simple Lines of Enquiry
    41. Anna Thorvaldsdottir — Aeriality
    40. Gérard Grisey — Quatre Chants pour franchir le seuil
    39. John Zorn — Shir Ha-Shirim/The Song of Songs
    38. Nico Muhly — Viola Concerto
    37. Tristan Perich — Surface Image
    36. Unsuk Chin — Violin Concerto
    35. Steven Stucky — Symphony
    34. John Adams — On the Transmigration of Souls
    33. Julia Wolfe — Steel Hammer
    32. Peter Eotvos — Seven
    31. David Lang — The Passing Measures
    30. Jennifer Higdon — Violin Concerto
    29. George Benjamin — Written on Skin
    28. Ted Hearne — Law of Mosaics
    27. David T. Little — Dog Days
    26. Chaya Czernowin — Maim
    25. Lisa Bielawa — Double Violin Concerto
    24. Chris Theofanidis — Rainbow Body
    23. Meredith Monk — Songs of Ascension
    22. Henri Dutilleux — Correspondances
    21. Osvaldo Golijov — Three Songs for Soprano and Orchestra
    20. John Luther Adams — In the White Silence
    19. Jurg Frey — String Quartet No. 3
    18. Thomas Ades — Polaris
    17. Kaija Saariaho — D'om le vrai sens
    16. Steve Reich — Double Sextet
    15. Hans Abrahamsen — Schnee
    14. Julia Wolfe — Anthracite Fields
    13. Donnacha Dennehy — Grá Agus Bás
    12. Anna Thorvaldsdottir — In the Light of Air
    11. Andrew Norman — The Companion Guide to Rome
    10. Georg Friedrich Haas — in vain
    9. Thomas Ades — Asyla
    8. David Lang — The Little Match Girl Passion
    7. Kaija Saariaho — L'Amour de loin
    6. John Adams — The Dharma At Big Sur
    5. John Luther Adams — Become Ocean
    4. Andrew Norman — Play
    3. Missy Mazzoli — Breaking the Waves (* Because this piece has not yet been recorded, we've substituted Song from the Uproar)
    2. Hans Abrahamsen — let me tell you
    1. Caroline Shaw — Partita for 8 Voices
    http://www.wqxr.org/#!/story/vote-q2...sic-countdown/
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    I would highly recommended that readers interested in 21st century music buy a copy of Alex Ross's book The Rest Is Noise. It is a great read, very informative and well-written.



    Kind regards,

    George

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    I have a buttload of 21st century music, but I'll wait to see if this thread can be stable for a few pages...

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    Count me as another huge fan of 21st century music!

    50. Louis Andriessen — La Passione
    49. Enno Poppe — Keilschrift
    48. Thomas Ades — Tevot
    47. Kaija Saariaho — Orion
    46. Sofia Gubaidulina — In tempus praesens
    45. Donnacha Dennehy — That the Night Come
    44. Esa Pekka Salonen — Violin Concerto
    43. Sarah Kirkland Snider — Unremembered
    42. Ann Southam — Simple Lines of Enquiry
    41. Anna Thorvaldsdottir — Aeriality
    40. Gérard Grisey — Quatre Chants pour franchir le seuil
    39. John Zorn — Shir Ha-Shirim/The Song of Songs
    38. Nico Muhly — Viola Concerto
    37. Tristan Perich — Surface Image
    36. Unsuk Chin — Violin Concerto
    35. Steven Stucky — Symphony
    34. John Adams — On the Transmigration of Souls
    33. Julia Wolfe — Steel Hammer
    32. Peter Eotvos — Seven
    31. David Lang — The Passing Measures
    30. Jennifer Higdon — Violin Concerto
    29. George Benjamin — Written on Skin
    28. Ted Hearne — Law of Mosaics
    27. David T. Little — Dog Days
    26. Chaya Czernowin — Maim
    25. Lisa Bielawa — Double Violin Concerto
    24. Chris Theofanidis — Rainbow Body
    23. Meredith Monk — Songs of Ascension
    22. Henri Dutilleux — Correspondances
    21. Osvaldo Golijov — Three Songs for Soprano and Orchestra
    20. John Luther Adams — In the White Silence
    19. Jurg Frey — String Quartet No. 3
    18. Thomas Ades — Polaris
    17. Kaija Saariaho — D'om le vrai sens
    16. Steve Reich — Double Sextet
    15. Hans Abrahamsen — Schnee
    14. Julia Wolfe — Anthracite Fields
    13. Donnacha Dennehy — Grá Agus Bás
    12. Anna Thorvaldsdottir — In the Light of Air
    11. Andrew Norman — The Companion Guide to Rome
    10. Georg Friedrich Haas — in vain
    9. Thomas Ades — Asyla
    8. David Lang — The Little Match Girl Passion
    7. Kaija Saariaho — L'Amour de loin
    6. John Adams — The Dharma At Big Sur
    5. John Luther Adams — Become Ocean
    4. Andrew Norman — Play
    3. Missy Mazzoli — Breaking the Waves (* Because this piece has not yet been recorded, we've substituted Song from the Uproar)
    2. Hans Abrahamsen — let me tell you
    1. Caroline Shaw — Partita for 8 Voices

    I am somewhat surprised that nothing by Magnus Lindberg made this list.

    While there are many great pieces in the above list, Linberg's "Sculpture" and "Concerto for Orchestra" are the equal, or better, than some of the pieces listed, in my opinion.

    I will be checking into the pieces I am unfamiliar with on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barelytenor View Post
    I would highly recommended that readers interested in 21st century music buy a copy of Alex Ross's book The Rest Is Noise. It is a great read, very informative and well-written.



    Kind regards,

    George
    I don't remember reading too much about 21st century music in that book.
    To listen is an effort, and just to hear has no merit. A duck hears also. - Igor Stravinsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    I don't remember reading too much about 21st century music in that book.
    I cry your pardon. Although a lot of the music he discusses in that book would be considered "modern" by many listeners (Berg, Schoenberg, Webern, Boulez, Messiaen), the subtitle of the book is "Listening to the 20th Century." When you get to be my age, Debussy sounds like it was written yesterday. Of course quite a few of the composers he discusses are still writing today, and some of it is even music. So, here's a link to Ross's audio samples from the book. http://www.therestisnoise.com/2007/0...udiofiles.html



    Kind regards,

    George

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barelytenor View Post
    When you get to be my age, Debussy sounds like it was written yesterday.
    you're forgiven!--but just a reminder to everyone that this thread should be primarily oriented to music composed since the year 2000.

    I quick thank you for all the links posted so far--I'm especially enjoying both the radio stations.

    (And I agree The Rest is Noise is a good book, btw.)
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    Hi, new here but I'll make it up to you

    I don't know a lot of living music but I found this on a Facebook page last night:



    I think it's interesting to say the least, the composer has a unique conception of structure

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    Re 21, Gubaidulina (85), Penderecki (83), Wuorinen (78), Sciarrino (69), Chin (55), currently hold the most interest for me. Kurtag (90), Norgard (84), Dusapin (61), somewhat less. Some are long-in-the-tooth, so replenishment may be in order in the not-too-distant-future. Ensuring of course to keep taking my vitamins, so all of this makes sense. But that's the beauty of Atonal, isn't it. It doesn't really have to make sense at any of life's intersections.


    "I could tell you my adventures — beginning from this morning," said Alice a little timidly: "but it's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then." - Lewis Carroll
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