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    Karajan / BPO

    Dohnanyi / Cleveland is also thrilling

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Karajan / BPO
    Sadly, this is one of the very few recordings he made of Bruckner that has excellent SQ. Most of the rest are in dire need of re-mastering in order to be listenable. DG made a mess of almost all of them.
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    Another superb performance, listened to this afternoon, is Thielemann/MPO. It is a spacious reading, and the sonics are incredible for a CD -- no muddiness nor congestion anywhere, which is the fate of many other recordings of this symphony.

    I could hear every instrument, even in the tuttis, and the brass was magnificent. It made a huge difference in my appreciation of the music.
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    Just listened to M5 with van Zweden/NRPO. Wow!!! A marvelous performance, with SQ to match. It is even better than Jochum/RCO, and matched only by Eichhorn/BRSO.

    Thielemann/MPO and Karajan/BPO are also excellent, but a bit below these two, for me.
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    Just had another listen to Zweden, and my first impressions held up completely. At the very top of B5's, for me.
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    Default After the Round-Up - No.5

    No.5 Results:
    Trash
    68th: Tintner RNSO
    67th: Järvi ROTH
    66th: Horenstein BBC SO
    65th: Asahina OPO

    Decent
    64th: Knappertsbusch MPO
    63rd: Schuricht RSOS
    62nd: Haitink WPO
    61st: Eichhorn BOL
    60th: Sawallisch BySO
    59th: Dohnányi ClO
    58th: Eichhorn SOdBR
    57th: Asahina TMSO
    56th: Jochum SKD
    55th: Chailly DSOB
    54th: Masur LGO
    53rd: Rozhdestvensky USSR
    52nd: Kempe MPO
    51st: Inbal RSOF
    50th: Matačić CzPO
    49th: Sinopoli SKD
    48th: Barenboim SKB
    47th: Beinum RCO
    46th: Abbado WPO
    45th: Barenboim CSO
    44th: Rögner RSOB
    43rd: Maazel SOdBR
    42nd: Wand MPO
    41st: Klemperer WPO

    Good
    40th: Skrowaczewski RSOS
    39th: Schuricht WPO
    38th: Janowski OSR
    37th: Jochum RCO Phillips
    36th: Maazel WPO
    35th: Wand SOdNDR
    34th: Solti CSO
    33rd: Paternostro WPR
    32nd: Jochum ORTF
    31st: Klemperer PO
    30th: Celibidache Altus
    29th: Wand NHKSO
    28th: Wand BPO
    27th: Kegel LRSO
    26th: Harnoncourt WPO
    25th: Skrowaczewski LPO
    24th: Haitink SOdBR
    23rd: Gielen SWR SO
    22nd: Knappertsbusch WPO
    21st: Ormandy PhlO
    20th: Furtwängler WPO
    19th: Haitink RCO
    18th: Wand DSOB
    17th: Young HPO
    16th: Welser-Möst LPO
    15th: Venzago TS (1p)
    14th: Lim KSO (2p)
    13th: Wand KRSO (3p)
    12th: Zweden NthRSO
    11th: Jochum SOdBR
    10th: Thielemann MPO
    9th: Karajan BPO
    8th: Furtwängler BPO (4p)
    7th: Karajan WSO (5p)

    Very good
    6th: Celibidache RSOS
    5th: Matačić NHKSO (6p)
    4th: Barenboim BPO (7p)
    3rd: Blomstedt LGO (8p)
    2nd: Jochum RCO Live 1986 (9p)
    1st: Celibidache MPO (10p)

    Highlights from the round-up:


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.5 in B flat major Live recording
    1896 Version, Ed. Schalk
    Korean Symphony Orchestra
    Hun-Joung Lim
    Decca (2016/2017 Issue Edition)


    It is lightweight and at the same time daring in its intensity and tempi. This is the first successful recording of the set, using again the controversial unauthorised versions but with a brilliant performance result.
    C+


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.5 in B flat major Live recording
    1878 Original Version, Ed. Haas
    Wiener Symphoniker
    Herbert von Karajan
    Orfeo (1954/1990 Remastered Edition)


    In performance standards it's an authentic Karajan work, where he achieves the beauty he is seeking for. The shifts in the Adagio codas are mouth-dropping and become a highlight opposite to Celibidache's way (gentle explosion vs. wandering progression).
    B-


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.5 in B flat major Live recording
    1878 Original Version, Ed. Nowak
    Berliner Philharmoniker
    Daniel Barenboim
    Warner Classics (1992/2006 Reissue Edition)


    It is a complete display of orchestral strength, saying by the loud timpani, the soft strings in the Adagio or the contrast that the brass provides, with no mistake.
    B-


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.5 in B flat major Live recording
    1878 Original Version, Ed. Nowak
    Concertgebouworkest Amsterdam
    Eugen Jochum
    Tahra (1986)


    Deep performance with astounding detail in the pace and the strings. There is both lack of weak spots and very emotive features in the score that Jochum is able to create for a last time.
    B


    I revisited the last B5 by Jochum with the RCO and had a great time.

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