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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    “The director of the Elbphilharmonie says that tickets to performances by resident ensembles, touring orchestras like the New York Philharmonic and Chicago Symphony, chamber music, new music and jazz alike are all bought up within hours.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/a...g-germany.html
    Most of tickets for all performances of the entire season are already sold out, all the way to June.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jurianbai View Post
    Good to see that million/billion of money still invested in classical music industry. It's provocative to see one of largest and most acoustical advanced (Wiki quoted) is located in Hamburg, a city with population of "merely" 2 millions.
    It is the second biggest city in Germany. Berlin is bigger, but they would probably not afford it.
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    They claim that this concert-hall has the best acoustics to date. I would like the first TC visitor to report on this.

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    The first recording is already made in that hall :

    https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/det...4/hnum/5683441
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxllxT View Post
    They claim that this concert-hall has the best acoustics to date. I would like the first TC visitor to report on this.

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    Amazing! I would like to see TC report on this also. I googled and it said "only" 2073 seat capacity. Compared to this list of concert halls.

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    https://www.welt.de/regionales/hambu...am-besten.html

    Dutch reports are quite critical: the acoustics are against the violins and in favour of oboes & clarinets - on the shrill side. But that can be mended, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegendesLicht View Post
    From under 900 million to 6 billion - that is quite a leap of imagination...

    Yes, it is very expensive. And yes, there have been delays and scandals during the building. But it is also beautiful, and a project that I believe, we classical fans should rather support than criticize. And isn't it what makes a country like Germany into a civilized, cultured nation - the ability to finance the achievements of human spirit, like music, architecture and other arts, rather than only the mere necessities?
    Agreed. Of course, it helps that since the end of WW II, the NATO has preferred that resources formerly devoted to the German Military be reallocated to cultural activities...

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    This is a very exciting time to come to live in Hamburg. The Elbphilharmonie is everywhere, looking down from posters and souvenirs and countless newspaper articles and photos. The old Starbucks where apart from coffee they sell concert and opera tickets, got renamed into Elbphilharmonie Kulturkafe. Even the local subway advertises with lines like this: "Can't find a parking spot at the Elphi? Ride the subway!" And the distinctive wavy silhouette of the real thing soars high above the city, seen from far away. I have been around there seven times during the last nine days - mostly wandering around the outside plaza 37 meters above the Elbe. Of course, there is not a slightest chance of coming at concert tickets before next season. And the more I visit her, the more I love her. Gosh, how I love her! My heart skips a beat whenever I come near her. I have even purchased my wedding outfit with the more long-time purpose of some day wearing it to the Elbphilharmonie in view. She is a real beauty, so proud, majestic and yet somehow very light, like a ship travelling full sail down the mighty river. She is a symbol of many things that are precious and dear to me: of music, of the German cultural drive, of my own new life in the city of Hamburg. She is almost like a living being with a soul of her own.

    I remember reading about strange people who fell in love with the Berlin Wall (and actually added "Berliner-Mauer" to their last name) or with the Eiffel Tower. I am not so out there... yet..., but I think I can somewhat better understand these people now.

    PS. I have just found the recent "Are you alone?" thread, the latest one bemoaning the loneliness of being a classical music minority and the possible oblivion of classical music some time in the future. I have not been free of this all-encompassing pessimism of course. But whenever I look up at that distinctive silhouette in the distance that has cost so much and has had so many hopes connected to it, I am reminded of the fact that I am most definitely not alone.
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    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    Und die stolzen Wolken jagen.
    Heinrich Heine

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegendesLicht View Post
    This is a very exciting time to come to live in Hamburg. The Elbphilharmonie is everywhere, looking down from posters and souvenirs and countless newspaper articles and photos. The old Starbucks where apart from coffee they sell concert and opera tickets, got renamed into Elbphilharmonie Kulturkafe. Even the local subway advertises with lines like this: "Can't find a parking spot at the Elphi? Ride the subway!" And the distinctive wavy silhouette of the real thing soars high above the city, seen from far away. I have been around there seven times during the last nine days - mostly wandering around the outside plaza 37 meters above the Elbe. Of course, there is not a slightest chance of coming at concert tickets before next season. And the more I visit her, the more I love her. Gosh, how I love her! My heart skips a beat whenever I come near her. I have even purchased my wedding outfit with the more long-time purpose of some day wearing it to the Elbphilharmonie in view. She is a real beauty, so proud, majestic and yet somehow very light, like a ship travelling full sail down the mighty river. She is a symbol of many things that are precious and dear to me: of music, of the German cultural drive, of my own new life in the city of Hamburg. She is almost like a living being with a soul of her own.

    I remember reading about strange people who fell in love with the Berlin Wall (and actually added "Berliner-Mauer" to their last name) or with the Eiffel Tower. I am not so out there... yet..., but I think I can somewhat better understand these people now.

    PS. I have just found the recent "Are you alone?" thread, the latest one bemoaning the loneliness of being a classical music minority and the possible oblivion of classical music some time in the future. I have not been free of this all-encompassing pessimism of course. But whenever I look up at that distinctive silhouette in the distance that has cost so much and has had so many hopes connected to it, I am reminded of the fact that I am most definitely not alone.
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    Today at the Elbphilharmonie the Staatskapelle Dresden under Christian Thielemann is playing Wagner - the extracts from Die Walküre and Götterdämmerung, some of the best music in the universe. But for now I am a silent onlooker, out there in the half-darkness.

    From the height of the Elbphilharmonie plaza, 37 meters above the Elbe, one can look into the heart of Hamburg like from no other place. The great river, the ships coming in to port or taking out to sea - huge container vessels, led by the pilot boats on their course, barges, small passenger boats that function as public transportation here, and occassionally a gigantic snow-white cruise beauty. The ships under loading, the docks, the cranes - Europe's second biggest port, the industrial heart of Germany, full of never ceasing activity without which the city of Hamburg would have never come up with the money to build the Elbphilharmonie. I walk around and take a look in all directions. There is the Köhlbrand Bridge, swung in an elegant arch high above the harbor. There is the church of St. Michaelis with its tall, completely lit spire - also a beauty in white and gold. And between them a sea of lights. I look down on all this, on the portal of the Elbphilharmonie behind me (Großer Saal, Kleiner Saal - the inscriptions on the entrances to both halls are in German only), on the great river, and think the words that supposedly belong to Richard Wagner after hearing his beloved Freischütz for the first time in Paris: "Wie ist mir wohl, dass ich ein Deutscher bin" - how good it is, that I am a German.

    There will be summer concerts in August - not all of them classical though, the tickets for which will be sold starting from February 15th. I think I am going to pitch a tent in front of the ticket office so I can be the first one in the morning.
    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    Und die stolzen Wolken jagen.
    Heinrich Heine

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    Default Bragging time!

    SiegendesLicht is going to the Elphi!!!

    Only to the smaller Recital Hall (Kleiner Saal) so far - that is what I have been able to obtain today. Over 2.000 tickets for the opening of the new season in September (the NDR Orchestra playing Beethoven) were gone within an hour this morning, before I even got to the cashiers' stand. The online purchase website was overloaded and even more hopeless. But I am very happy to have got what I did, and I won't have to wait until September. Here is the concert program https://www.elbphilharmonie.de/en/wh...n-helgath/8515 and the ticket itself:

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    The second one is for Bach's St. Matthew's Passion in April at the Church of St. Michaelis here in Hamburg. It will be performed by musicians of the same NDR Orchestra that resides at the Elbphilharmonie.

    And next time I will really have to pitch a tent the night before!
    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    Auf die Berge will ich steigen,
    Wo die dunklen Tannen ragen,
    Bäche rauschen, Vögel singen,
    Und die stolzen Wolken jagen.
    Heinrich Heine

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