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    I do not care for ANY HvK Bruckner recordings. The sound is rather poor on most of them, and his interpretation is middle tier at best.
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    I was going to post a funny reaction to this repetitive comment, but for one that cares about Bruckner I better let this go in peace.
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    I didn't catch my favorite Bruckner 7th on the list:



    The Max Rudolf was the first recording of this work (and my first hearing of Bruckner) and the sound has never left my memory. My old LP is still a treasure, and I purchased a CD reissue from Haydn House a couple of years back. Sure, there are many great Bruckner 7ths on disc, and many of them (if not most) feature better production and sound quality. But the Cincinnati Symphony recording is the one that captured my heart and made me a Brucknerian, and though I now collect versions of the 7th Symphony (and the 4th), the Max Rudolf stands supreme in my collection. I think Bruckner himself would have liked this recording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SONNET CLV View Post
    I didn't catch my favorite Bruckner 7th on the list:



    The Max Rudolf was the first recording of this work (and my first hearing of Bruckner) and the sound has never left my memory. My old LP is still a treasure, and I purchased a CD reissue from Haydn House a couple of years back. Sure, there are many great Bruckner 7ths on disc, and many of them (if not most) feature better production and sound quality. But the Cincinnati Symphony recording is the one that captured my heart and made me a Brucknerian, and though I now collect versions of the 7th Symphony (and the 4th), the Max Rudolf stands supreme in my collection. I think Bruckner himself would have liked this recording.
    Good. I've done research and it looks like this recording was never reissued even on CD. The HDTT website has remastered and reissued the recording in High Quality, and judging by the samples it looks like a singular recording. Also, Abruckner offers the recording for free 320. I'll give it a listen tomorrow, thanks!
    By tomorrow I mean in 10 or 11 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    I was going to post a funny reaction to this repetitive comment, but for one that cares about Bruckner I better let this go in peace.
    Now this made me curious.
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    Default Max Rudolf - Bruckner 7


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.7 in E major
    1885 Modified Version, Ed. Gutmann
    Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra
    Max Rudolf
    Decca (1966)


    I cannot call this recording as "standard". It is individual in its own way, particularly in the brass that opens the Scherzo. Everything is like recorded one key lower than usual. Except a little distortion, is a clean recording. It doesn't challenge my favourites but it is a dignifying version. It reminds me of the Heinz Bongartz LGO B6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinus View Post
    I do not care for ANY HvK Bruckner recordings. The sound is rather poor on most of them, and his interpretation is middle tier at best.
    BPO/HvK's 1966 Bruckner 9 is top tier. VPO/HvK's 1989 Bruckner 7 is top tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    BPO/HvK's 1966 Bruckner 9 is top tier. VPO/HvK's 1989 Bruckner 7 is top tier.
    I just realized that Granate's top pick Karajan 7th is the DG BPO not the final 1989 WP version (which I assumed) will have to revisit these and see if there is something I need to re-consider, both are top tier but the WP is recognized by many as a truely great touchstone valedictorian rendition.....

    Granate has me listening to these again (and again), the WP brass has that warm golden tone and the final soaring massive crescendo comes a bit closer in scaling the heights to touch the hand of god in glorious splendor.......

    I have been buying the individual DG BPO Karajan 4-9 CD sets used with "wing" graphics because the budget boxset seems so cheap and some CD breaks to save space are ill advised............

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    I have been buying the individual DG BPO Karajan 4-9 CD sets used with "wing" graphics because the budget boxset seems so cheap and some CD breaks to save space are ill advised............

    1. I kind of didn't understand the meaning of the last part of the sentence (except the wing-graphic covers).
    2. I'd like to purchase the Karajan BPO set whenever they release a better packaging. The current one may be cheap, but the symphony edition is ugly.
    Last edited by Granate; Jul-15-2017 at 15:36. Reason: several typos!

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    I have been buying the individual DG BPO Karajan 4-9 CD sets used with "wing" graphics because the budget boxset seems so cheap and some CD breaks to save space are ill advised............
    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    1. I kind of didn't understand the meaning of the last part of the sentence (except the wing-graphic covers).
    2. I'd like to puchase the Karajan BPO set whenever they release a better packaging. The current one may be cheap, but the symphony edition is ugly.
    For instance in the Karajan budget boxset they force together symphonies 2 & 8 on two CDs to save space and use fewest CDs for boxset, with the older "wing" CDs sym 8 gets its own 2CD package..........this is common practice for many budget boxsets, some Mahler sets are especially scrambled as a result to use fewest CDs possible

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