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    Listened to the SACD of Thielemann/SKD last night. The sonics were incredible, and the performance excellent. He brings out lots of the inner voices. One of the best B8's I have heard.

    The decision to split the discs after the adagio was not as attractive. Almost all others split it after the second movement.
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    No love for Boulez/VPO version around here? it is a wonderful performance in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdec View Post
    No love for Boulez/VPO version around here? it is a wonderful performance in my opinion.
    I agree that it is an excellent perfomance, and has the added charisma of being at St. Florian. But the SQ leaves much to be desired, and the interpretation is not as expansive as I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdec View Post
    No love for Boulez/VPO version around here? it is a wonderful performance in my opinion.

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    Enjoyable but it isn't muscular enough for me in the 8th. It makes me wish Boulez had recorded other Bruckner symphonies because I certainly don't feel that way about them all. Karajan (VPO and BPO) will always be tops for me I think, but the Giulini is great too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdec View Post
    No love for Boulez/VPO version around here? it is a wonderful performance in my opinion.

    Bruckner
    Symphony No.8 in C minor (1887-1890 Versions, Ed. Haas)
    Cond. Pierre Boulez, WPO, DG (1996 Live recording at St. Florian)

    The resonance is a great advantage and works magic in the Allegro, but the tempi are imperfect and the brass and strings do not level for the composition.
    C

    Place in my top: 43rd

    Sorry, thanks for sharing.

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    Default After the Round-Up - No.8

    No.8 Results:
    Trash
    88th: Abendroth LRSO
    87th: Rögner RSOB

    Decent
    86th: Mehta IPO
    85th: Szell ClO
    84th: Furtwängler WPO
    83rd: Haitink RCO 2005
    82nd: Kubelík Orfeo
    81st: Haitink WPO
    80th: Zweden NthRPO
    79th: Dohnányi ClO
    78th: Asahina Live OPO JJ
    77th: López-Cobos CnSO
    76th: Karajan WPO Live Salz
    75th: Lim KSO
    74th: Wand NHK Altus

    Good
    73rd: Skrowaczewski RSOS
    72nd: Maazel BPO
    71st: Knappertsbusch MPO Live
    70th: Asahina Studio OPO JJ
    69th: Järvi LPO
    68th: Tintner NSOoI
    67th: Barenboim SKB
    66th: Wand MPO
    65th: Wand KRSO
    64th: Böhm SOdBR Live
    63rd: Giulini PO
    62nd: Kempe TOZ
    61st: Janowski OSR
    60th: Inbal RSOF
    59th: Solti WPO
    58th: Boulez WPO
    57th: Asahina OPO JVC
    56th: Tennstedt WC
    55th: Kegel LRSO
    54th: Matačić Altus
    53rd: Solti CSO
    52nd: Knappertsbusch BPO
    51st: Blomstedt LGO
    50th: Skrowaczewski YNSO
    49th: Giulini BPO
    48th: Goodall BBC SO
    47th: Barenboim CSO
    46th: Jochum BmSO Live St. Florian
    45th: Beinum RCO
    44th: Thielemann SKD
    43rd: Knappertsbusch BaySO
    42nd: Eichhorn BOL
    41st: Barenboim BPO
    40th: Masur LGO
    39th: Tennstedt BPO
    38th: Wand SOdNDR 1993
    37th: Asahina NHKSO
    36th: Schuricht WPO
    35st: Karajan BPO DG
    34th: Venzago KOB
    33rd: Schuricht WPO Live
    32nd: Harnoncourt BPO
    31st: Matačić Denon
    30th: Karajan St. Florian
    29th: Jochum BPO
    28th: Giulini WPO
    27th: Karajan BPO WC
    26th: Haitink RCO
    25th: Chailly RCO
    24th: Wand SOdNDR 2000
    23rd: Jochum BmSO Live Tokyo
    22nd: Sinopoli SKD
    21st: Karajan WPO DG
    20th: Jochum SKD
    19th: Maazel SOdBR (1p)
    18th: Jochum PSH (2p)
    17th: Kubelík SOdBR

    Very good
    16th: Celibidache WC
    15th: Wand BPO
    14th: Klemperer NPO (3p)
    13th: Celibidache DG
    12th: Rozhdestvensky USSR (4p)
    11th: Knappertsbusch MPO Studio
    10th: Wand SOdNDR Lübeck (5p)
    9th: Tennstedt LPO
    8th: Knappertsbusch WPO (6p)
    7th: Gielen SWR SO BBuF (7p)
    6th: Böhm WPO
    5th: Celibidache Altus (8p)
    4th: Barbirolli HO
    3rd: Young HPO (9p)

    Excellent
    2nd: Horenstein LSO
    1st: Furtwängler BPO (10p)

    Highlights from Round-up:


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.8 in C minor Live recording
    1887-1890 Mixed Version, Ed. Haas
    Wiener Philharmoniker
    Carl Schuricht
    Altus (1963/2010 Remastered Edition)


    Powerful, a bit plain again in the Allegro, and really well remastered.
    C+


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.8 in C minor
    1887-1890 Mixed Version, Ed. Haas
    USSR Ministry of Culture Symphony Orchestra
    Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
    Venezia (1985/2009 Reissue Edition)


    Brass on point, tempi with personality that gives life to the symphony, some minor recording issues. Very heavy in the harps (lovely) and less in the strings. The Scherzo sounds too far but ok. It has what I demanded from him when I heard his style in the early symphonies, until 5, 6 and 7 came.
    B-


    Bruckner
    Symphony No.8 in C minor Live recording at Lübeck Cathetral
    1887-1890 Mixed Version, Ed. Haas
    Norddeutschen Rundfunk Sinfonieorchester
    Günter Wand
    Sony Classics (1987/1999 Issue Edition)


    Featuring a divisive brass section, between precision and disonance, it's one of the best No.8s in the market. It's very positive that there is no stage noise or clapping, and the Cathedral's resonance is a highlight. The Adagio is almost astonishing. In the Scherzo, the double basses have a great effect in the acoustics. Then the finale keeps on with the level but adds a little more of conducting skills in the tempi.
    B-

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