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    Don't like her tone. Don't like her technique. Don't like her repertoire. But she's good looking so everybody like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Praeludium View Post
    Don't like her tone. Don't like her technique. Don't like her repertoire. But she's good looking so everybody like her.
    jealous .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Praeludium View Post
    Don't like her tone. Don't like her technique. Don't like her repertoire. But she's good looking so everybody like her.
    You aren't into Albeniz, Tarrega or Walton guitar pieces?

    But as far as good looking guitarists go my favorite is Kaori Muraji. She is kind of like the inverse Vidovic - her technique might not be perfect (though it is good), but I find a lot of depth in her interpretations.
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    I don't like Albeniz on the guitar one little bit. Asturias is a marimba piece, face it.
    It's the greed of huge companies and huge organizations which control life in a kind of a brutal way ... It's gotten worse and worse, somehow, because physical science has given us more and more terrible deadly weapons, and the human spirit has been destroyed in so many cases, so what's the use of having the most powerful country in the world if we have killed the soul.
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    Not even Capricho Catalan, Sevilla or Cordoba?

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    Maybe Sevilla.....
    It's the greed of huge companies and huge organizations which control life in a kind of a brutal way ... It's gotten worse and worse, somehow, because physical science has given us more and more terrible deadly weapons, and the human spirit has been destroyed in so many cases, so what's the use of having the most powerful country in the world if we have killed the soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    I don't like Albeniz on the guitar one little bit. Asturias is a marimba piece, face it.
    I think this is probably just a reaction against the fact this is probably the most over-played classical guitar piece of all time, but lets face it Sevilla is a great composition (as is Asturias, though I would suggest over-rated). I love this Albeniz piece arranged by Narciso Yepes for 2 guitars.

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    What about Jorge Caballero playing Evocacion and El Puerto?



    or El Albaicin?



    By the way, he followed those Albeniz pieces with his transcription of Alban Berg's Piano Sonata and Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip View Post
    jealous .
    No I'm not. What she does simply doesn't touch me at all. I'm not saying she isn't a very competent instrumentalist.

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    You aren't into Albeniz, Tarrega or Walton guitar pieces?

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    At least, for Albeniz, not on guitar, and for Walton, not just those 5 bagatelles..
    For Tarrega... I have a great admiration for the man, the teacher, the guitarist, but I definitely don't want to hear his music in concert/CD (or not in all the CDs). In my mind he wrote some very cute music who is great for amateurs playing in their living room, or concertists playing in intimate setting once in a while.



    I'm under the impression I'm hearing more and more about Jorge Caballero. I think he doesn't teach.. is he one of the few guitarists who can sustain himself just with concerts/masterclass (which is teaching but not like having a regular position in an university) ?

    I'm under the impression he's a guitarist for guitarists... yes I know he won a prestigious multi-instruments competition and so on, but I never hear about a project for new repertoire (like James Boyd's), an ambitious CD release, a chamber ensemble or whatever. This isn't a cricticism of course, I know he's an amazing musician (but I have hard times really liking his tone), but I'm under the impression he mainly plays quasi-impossible virtuosic transcriptions. Am I wrong ?

    edit : I see he plays with a violinist.. Ok, he at least does chamber music !
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    A little off topic but this is how Asturias must be performed:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Praeludium View Post

    NO
    At least, for Albeniz, not on guitar, and for Walton, not just those 5 bagatelles..
    For Tarrega... I have a great admiration for the man, the teacher, the guitarist, but I definitely don't want to hear his music in concert/CD (or not in all the CDs). In my mind he wrote some very cute music who is great for amateurs playing in their living room, or concertists playing in intimate setting once in a while.


    I know he's an amazing musician (but I have hard times really liking his tone), but I'm under the impression he mainly plays quasi-impossible virtuosic transcriptions. Am I wrong ?
    I kind of have those 2 qualms about Caballero too...but I think the tone thing may be at least partially attributed to the miking in the videos. The transcription thing you have a point on too, honestly, though much of his playing I do find impressive.

    Out of curiosity what players, repertoire do you find best?

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    I'm under the impression he's a guitarist for guitarists... yes I know he won a prestigious multi-instruments competition and so on, but I never hear about a project for new repertoire (like James Boyd's), an ambitious CD release, a chamber ensemble or whatever. This isn't a cricticism of course, I know he's an amazing musician (but I have hard times really liking his tone), but I'm under the impression he mainly plays quasi-impossible virtuosic transcriptions. Am I wrong ?

    edit : I see he plays with a violinist.. Ok, he at least does chamber music !


    1) He teaches at The Kean University Conservatory of Music in New Jersey.
    2) His tone is beautiful in person--never judge tone by a YT video!
    3) True, he doesn't release a lot of CDs (he's probably too busy transcribing impossible keyboard pieces!), but he plays a lot of contemporary music: Elliot Carter's Changes, Fernyhough's Kurtze Schatten II, Berio's Sequenza XI--I guess he just doesn't have any videos of them.
    4) He actually plays a lot of chamber music with the Miro String Quartet, among others.
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    Ok, thanks for your reply !
    He's definitely a very interesting guitarist.

    About the tone, I agree I shouldn't have judged on YT, but in every videos I've seen of him (in different locations, with different recording methods I guess) there's this tone which doesn't bother me but doesn't please me neither, so I ended up thinking mr.Caballero had made some aesthetical choices I didn't like - nothing wrong with that. I hope I'll be able to see him live some day (:

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    Here are a few samples from his two CDs. The Bach is about 16 years old, but it still sounds pretty good! The Dvorak is about 5 years old.

    http://www.jcaballeroguitar.com/pages/showaudio.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praeludium View Post
    NO
    At least, for Albeniz, not on guitar
    Hmmm...well you would certainly be in the minority here. Even Albeniz like Albeniz on guitar, in fact so much so that he is quoted as saying his music actually sounds better on the guitar than the instrument it was written for.

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    and for Walton, not just those 5 bagatelles..
    This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me here - so how much does a composer have to compose, before their pieces are worth performing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Praeludium View Post
    For Tarrega... I have a great admiration for the man, the teacher, the guitarist, but I definitely don't want to hear his music in concert/CD (or not in all the CDs). In my mind he wrote some very cute music who is great for amateurs playing in their living room, or concertists playing in intimate setting once in a while.
    Fair enough, but your opinion on this composer would definitely not be shared by most guitarists. Nor would your opinion that Vidovic's tone and technique are at all lacking. To then suggest other people only like listening to her because she is good looking I find fairly ridiculous, if not a little bit insulting. I could easily point out if anything this seems more suggestive of you discriminating against a performer based on how they look.

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