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    Quote Originally Posted by nikola
    You're sadly obsessed with me
    Unfortunately, I wrote all of my negative comments about your music while sober. LOL

    Nah.. I'm just giving you a hard time. I'd like to see you learn more about composition, theory-wise.
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    "The worst music I actually heard on this board (with some exceptions) by people who are telling that 'theory is everything'.

    Sorry to say ... but some of you here don't have a f***ing clue what music actually is and to be aware that some of you actually have musical knowledge, all this is even more sad."

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    You never wrote anything negative about my music... you only wrote that you're jealous that I'm better composer than you even without musical education

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikola
    you only wrote that you're jealous that I'm better composer than you even without musical education
    That's it!
    "The worst music I actually heard on this board (with some exceptions) by people who are telling that 'theory is everything'.

    Sorry to say ... but some of you here don't have a f***ing clue what music actually is and to be aware that some of you actually have musical knowledge, all this is even more sad."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekhar View Post
    I've come to the rather sobering conclusion that folks who post music on forums aren't really looking for critique (even when they say they are): from my experience they either want to promote their music or just want someone to listen to stuff they worked on (which is not a bad thing). I thought Talk Classical would be better than Facebook, but I see similar push-back on critiques here as well. IMO it's best to only say only nice things (if they're genuine of course) and withhold critiques, and under no circumstances offer suggestions on what the poster should do to "fix" the music, whether or not they're justified.
    What is best is not necessarily useful in improving ones' self. Ever seen the movie Whiplash? Sure it's an exaggerated film on the whole promising student VS antagonizing teacher roles, but it proves a point; "to shape something, you must beat it until it is molded. Beat it too hard and it will break, but the ones whom are worth shaping are the ones that can stand the beating." - something my teacher once told me, which I firmly believe in.

    Like it or not, not everyone will like everything you make. Ideally, criticism is something people should be open to, destructive or not. One way or another, we write music to be heard, and if someone is having trouble hearing, then we should be understanding as to why they are. The initial reaction to criticism is usually "fight or flight", but there is a grey area of contemplation, if you sit and sort out the good and the bad of the critic, and that's the best way to learn from someone who criticizes your work.

    Source: I used to perform in a joke of a band. People laughed at us and sneered behind our backs , but we accepted it and learned. Became a huge band in our local scene after persisting for years with all that and then silenced most critics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prasad94 View Post
    What is best is not necessarily useful in improving ones' self. Ever seen the movie Whiplash? Sure it's an exaggerated film on the whole promising student VS antagonizing teacher roles, but it proves a point; "to shape something, you must beat it until it is molded. Beat it too hard and it will break, but the ones whom are worth shaping are the ones that can stand the beating." - something my teacher once told me, which I firmly believe in.

    Like it or not, not everyone will like everything you make. Ideally, criticism is something people should be open to, destructive or not. One way or another, we write music to be heard, and if someone is having trouble hearing, then we should be understanding as to why they are. The initial reaction to criticism is usually "fight or flight", but there is a grey area of contemplation, if you sit and sort out the good and the bad of the critic, and that's the best way to learn from someone who criticizes your work.

    Source: I used to perform in a joke of a band. People laughed at us and sneered behind our backs , but we accepted it and learned. Became a huge band in our local scene after persisting for years with all that and then silenced most critics.
    Hey, obviously one needs to be open to criticism and learn from it, the point is that just wanting folks to embrace critiques isn't going to make them embrace it. Definitely go ahead and seek and learn from critiques when you're on the receiving end (I certainly do, in fact I respect people who can can find faults in my work), but my suggestion is to think twice when you wear the critic's hat because we can change ourselves but not the world (or human nature).

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    I do hope you are continuing your project georgedelorean .
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
    "Mahatma Gandhi"

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