define good melody
There is no right & wrong here! Just nuances...
... a couple of words from a philosophical point of view.
Our likes and dislikes are conclusive, positive facts - de gustibus non est disputandum. It means that we cannot justify those subjective facts. If we determine the good melody this way: a melody which seems to somebody good or great, we block the entire discussion. I am not contradicting that subjective factors are playing an important role in the assessment of the melody. However objective factors are equally important and it is just possible to talk about them. Taking objective factors into consideration allows for argumentation which isn't mere repeating that I like this and/or I dislike that. If the melody is written in the major-minor system it must meet different conditions than the pentatonic tune, for instance. Only provided we remember about the objective although not absolute factors it is possible to understand why Stravinsky's opinion on Beethoven isn't only an expression of personal likings of the Russian composer. And Stravinsky claimed that the whole artistic work of Beethoven was a ceaseless fight against the lack of melodic talent. For sure, accepting Stravinsky's view doesn't lead to diminishing Beethoven's genius.
Damn it all! all this our South stinks peace!
You whoreson dog, Papiols, come! Let's to music!
Ezra Pound, Sestina: Altaforte
Here a great tune:
All I said was there's nothing wrong with composers who used melody to get their point across. Not many composers are gifted melodist, but there's certainly nothing wrong with some big tunes found in a piece.
Andre simply has the wrong impression of what I'm trying to say.
My list changes yet again...
5. Vaughan Williams
20. De Falla
Just for the record, I think that the works of many C20th composers are quite melodic, even though that might not be the sole or even major thing they're concerned with. Some composers I can think of here are my favourite Varese, as well as others like Martin, Henze, Berg. But I disagree with MI that Bartok's Divertimento lacks melody. Just listen to how he locks you in with that big opening theme! That's very melodic, as are the other movements. He simply uses different rhythms to accompany his melodies. In any case, it's not as radical as those composers above. So I think that our perception of what is melody differs greatly, I think I'm more similar to bdelykleon here...