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    Some of Zappa's work I really like very much - especially the albums Roxy & Elsewhere and Zoot Allures - but because he is so adored by some people I also think he is overrated (by the people who adore him). I think he is overrated as a songwriter/composer: to put it very negatively I find much of his work a unmixable mix of cheesy doo-wop pastiches and boring imitations of serious composers like Varese. I think he found his true form in the early seventies with the rise of jazz rock or jazz fusion in which genre he also could excel in his greatest talent: playing guitar. I regard Zappa overrated as a composer but underrated as a guitarist: Zappa is in my top 5 of best rock guitarists of all time.

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    Well, as Zappa used to say, "rating guitarists is a stupid hobby".
    "When a man is treated like a beast, he says, 'After all, I'm human.' When he behaves like a beast, he says, 'After all, I'm only human.' " - Karl Kraus

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    Well, Agamemnon, don't kill our darlings...

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    "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vronsky View Post
    Birth of a genius
    "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
    ÉddïéRÛKíddîngVãrèsë!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casebearer View Post
    I have Hot Rats on vinyl but I do not like the sound/mix of it at all. An important reason why I could never understand the very high rating Hot rats seems to get always & everywhere. I think every remix much be a whole lot better.
    Will have to check what I have. I had the original LP many years ago, still had it in the 90s. Had to unload about 300 LPs.

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    Current Hot Rats CD (2012) is the original mix. The 1987 re-issue features FZ's re-mix which gives everything a much hotter sound with the guitars way up in the mix. That's the one I prefer.
    "When a man is treated like a beast, he says, 'After all, I'm human.' When he behaves like a beast, he says, 'After all, I'm only human.' " - Karl Kraus

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    I'll have to get me that one some day.

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    "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
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    "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
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    "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
    ÉddïéRÛKíddîngVãrèsë!

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    Great Tuna Sandwich, Eddie!

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