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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayerl View Post
    Opera!!!!!
    Gotterdammerung is an opera
    La Boheme is an opera
    Don Giovanni is an opera
    Carmen is a bloody musical!!!!

    Really, mate?
    Look it up.
    Carmen is opéra comique, a sub-genre that can have dramatic/tragic topic (don't be fooled by the word comique, it's not necessarily comic) but also spoken dialogue.
    You also should get informed about the definition of what constitutes a musical. Carmen has operatic singing, unlike musicals.
    As for your comment being just an attempt to put down Carmen, the rest of the musical world disagrees with you (including, the composer of the first opera you've quoted).
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    It's practically the only thing that Brahms and Wagner both liked.
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    Default Carmen

    Something nobody can say abour Carmen:

    - it is boring or it is long.

    Neither of them would be true.

    Carmen is for opera what the bolero (Ravel) is for symphonic music...

    Both are "entraînant" and catchy.

    Opinion of a "neophit": Martin Pitchon

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    Just wanted to point out to those in the US that the Met summer encore performance of Bizet's Carmen with Elīna Garanča is tonight at 7pm in select theaters:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayerl View Post
    Opera!!!!!
    Gotterdammerung is an opera
    La Boheme is an opera
    Don Giovanni is an opera
    Carmen is a bloody musical!!!!
    Yes, and Zauberflote is a pantomime, I suppose, by this standard of reckoning?

    I have heard some things, but really! I suppose both Wagner and Richard Strauss were wrong in admiring Carmen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastien Melmoth View Post
    So, any opinions on which Carmen (recording) is THE Carmen to have?

    Karajan?

    Abbado?

    Sinopoli?

    I was totally knocked out by Elina Garanca in the METs recent production (with Alberto Alagana).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elina_Garanca
    For me it's Karajan 1 with Price as an incredible Carmen.
    OK I know it's supposedly not 'authentic' (whatever that might mean) and that Corelli sings in bastardised French. But the whole thing is overwhelming. Not to mention Culshaw's recording.

    I also have Karajan 2, Abbado and Beecham - all with considerable merits.

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    Try to find the one with Marilyn Horne and James McCracken; I think Adriana Maliponte is the Micaela and Leonard Bernstein conducts. I also saw them on tour; Horne opened her mouth and 50 pounds dropped away, her timbre was so sexy, and McCracken actually took the high B flat at the end of the Flower Song pianissimo as Bizet intended, and no one could figure out how he did it. It didn't matter how; what mattered was that he did it and it was beautiful.
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