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Thread: BBC Orchestras:What do you think of them?

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    I've got a couple of recordings of them, doing the C20th repertoire, and I think they are pretty good. I'm far more interested in what an ensemble plays rather than (necessarily) how they play it. Such subtleties I leave to musicians and composers (I am neither, just a listener). When going to concerts here in Sydney, I look at the program first, rather than who is playing. Often there is a huge discrepancy in regards to this. Like a few weeks ago I attended a concert of the Australian Youth Orchestra conducted by Mark Elder - they played Brett Dean (yes, a composer who is not currently decomposing for a change), Mahler and Shostakovich. Compare that to what the big guns here play & they lose on my account. I am not really interested in endless re-runs of Daphnis et Chloe and Beethoven's 5th, no matter how "good" they are played. I prefer to hear something that is less of a war-horse, and often the more better-known orchestras or ensembles here just don't play those kinds of things...
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    This could be an interesting point - but bad not necessarily the right choice of words.

    A problem I think that has affected not just the BBC but all the orchestras in this country is the homogeneity of sound we now have. 20 years ago there was a difference in sound between the BBCSO, LSO and Philharmonia. The conveyor belt of music colleges in this country has I feel left the orchestras devoid of individuality - they all do sound the same.

    Are they bad? No.

    Is the fact that they all sound the same bad? Yes.

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    In the time that I have been listening to classical music on a regular basis, I've always found the BBC Orchestras to be very good. My favorite would have to be the BBC symphony, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayerl View Post
    Might have guessed it was Gramophone. It used to be a very good magazine, effectively the monthly bible for serious music lovers. It has unforunately over the last few years seen fit to go populist and we are now sinking to the depths of "crossover" and film music (sorry, should say movie, we are after all in modern England) and elevating such genres to the level of Schubert, Mozart etc. Now it appears we are offering lists of best orchestras. What Classic FM is for the ears, Gramophone has become for the eyes.
    So negative in every post. If anshuman is new to classical music you may have single-handedly given the impression that it is a world full of proud intolerance.

    If you are a seasoned poster please explain to us lesser mortals what exactly differentiates a 'good' orchestra from a poor one - specifically. And how is one meant to tell them apart when there is such a cosmopolitan mix to today's bands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david.allsopp View Post
    So negative in every post. If anshuman is new to classical music you may have single-handedly given the impression that it is a world full of proud intolerance.

    If you are a seasoned poster please explain to us lesser mortals what exactly differentiates a 'good' orchestra from a poor one - specifically. And how is one meant to tell them apart when there is such a cosmopolitan mix to today's bands?

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    Dear Sir,
    thanks for your encouraging comments. But no. I'm not new to classical music. Been there for 20 years although it is hard to find kindred spirits at my place.

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    I'm curious, is there any difference in sound between them? Which one do you like most (maybe a stupid question): BBC S.O, BBC Scottish S.O, BBC N.O. of Wales or BBC Phil.? E.g. which has better strings section, in your opinion?
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    For me, the more important aspect is how the conductor leads a particular ensemble in his interpretation of a work. This is why listeners like to collect different recordings. A favorite piece recorded by one conductor may not be my favorite interpreted by another. I usually get turned off by conductors who rush the tempos, especially with beautiful melodies. It sucks all of the charm out of it for my ears.

    But it general, I wouldn't shy away from recordings by the BBC orchestras, or the Polish Radio Orchestra. They can be as fine as any of the more famous orchestras.

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    Mayerl and Toccata appear to be right , I've just joined and am amazed. Which pieces of music make you cry ? which oiece of music makes you want to go to the toilet and which one gives you flu ?I am surprised to read that Krummhorn thinks that this site should educate people about our chosen music likings, how arrogant !
    The British Broadcasting Corporation Symphony Orchestra was set up as a full-time orchestra in 1930 under Adrian Boult ( later "Sir") he was chief conductor until 1950 .Sir Malcolm Sargent, Antal Dorati,Colin Davis, Rozhdestvensky, Pierre Boulez, Rudolf Schwarz, Rudolf Kempe, Leonard Slatkin now Jiri Belohlavek. Appointed guest conductors have included Toscanini, Sir Charles McKerras, Michael Gielen, Gunter Wand and Jukka-Pekka Saraste.
    It is the principal orchestra Of The Promenade Concerts Season ( the biggest in the world ). it broacasts many concerts throughout the year and these are free to the audience. The BBC Symphony is paid for bythe government and the public who pay an annual fee to the BBC, the orchestra also works commercially It is of a very high standard, as good as any in the world and has plenty of rehearsal time. There are Five other orchestras in the BBC colours: The BBC Concert Orch,BBC National Orch of Wales, BBC Philharmonic, BBC Scottish S.O. There were once The VarietyOrch, The Review Orch., several Light Orchestras and I thought there was still a Training Orch.
    Have I helped educate somebody ? I think my facts are right ?

    the Gramophone is now in the hands of the Phillistine.I first bought it in 1950 when I was 12 years old--the critics were amazing Compton MacKenzie, Christopher Stone Phillip Hope-Wallace. Now I know more than they do and they write what they are told I am sure, but it is good for listing of new releases if nothing else.

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