http://www.talkclassical.com/ This is a classical music discussion forum. A leading musicians and listeners community on the web. en Mon, 20 May 2013 19:00:13 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.talkclassical.com/images/misc/rss.png http://www.talkclassical.com/ http://www.talkclassical.com/25646-poor-attempts-proselytizing.html Mon, 20 May 2013 16:53:30 GMT Any amusing annecodetes about failed attempts at convincing someone/others to appreciate your personal classical music tastes...or even to appreciate classical music itself? Several years ago, I took a friend who had just moved to Chicago to attend the symphony. He did not have any appreciation... Any amusing annecodetes about failed attempts at convincing someone/others to appreciate your personal classical music tastes...or even to appreciate classical music itself?

Several years ago, I took a friend who had just moved to Chicago to attend the symphony. He did not have any appreciation of classical music, but was interested in the experiencing arts/culture in his new urban dwelling. Some of his other friends had already taken him to Stepphenwolf Theater and the Museum of Contempory Art, and now it was my turn to impress. After a nice dinner and a bottle of decent wine, we took our seats in the concert hall. After the first movement of Schubert's Seventh, my friend turned to ask me a question (unaware of concert etiquette) and was furious to find me fast asleep. He then had to sit through the remainder of the performances without an alert and enthusiastic friend to assist him through the experience. Admittedly, I was jetlagged and wine didn't help, but I did permanently turn my friend off from classical music.

Any other stories out there? Sometimes, it is nice to start off a Monday by chuckling at yourself. :) ]]> Classical Music Discussion IBMchicago http://www.talkclassical.com/25646-poor-attempts-proselytizing.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25643-oblivion.html Mon, 20 May 2013 15:28:39 GMT Take a moment and listen to Piazzolla's tango, Oblivion:

http://www.timothyjuddviolin.com/2013/05/20/oblivion/ ]]> Classical Music Discussion timothyjuddviolin http://www.talkclassical.com/25643-oblivion.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25642-one-hour-compositions.html Mon, 20 May 2013 13:02:01 GMT After Vivaldi, what?

I propose K379, composed in April 1781 between 11 o'clock and midnight and performed the next day for the emperor.

Any other great music bashed out between supper and bedtime that you know of? ]]> Classical Music Discussion Kieran http://www.talkclassical.com/25642-one-hour-compositions.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25641-composition-mine-what-do.html Mon, 20 May 2013 10:48:42 GMT https://soundcloud.com/reuben-rowlan...-symphony-no-1

This is an orchestral composition that I wrote for GCSE Music. This means that I'm a young musician and that I'm looking for inspiration for the future.

I am aware that this forum is full of classical aficionados, so if you've got this far, please have a listen to my work. As I have already decided on doing Music for A Level, I'm looking for ideas to improve and develop my compositions.

As many of you can probably tell from hearing this, my main influence in Music is Beethoven as I absolutely adore his work.

I hope you like it, and I'm grateful if you take your time to listen to it. Thank You very much.

Sincerely,
Budding musician. ]]> Symphonical http://www.talkclassical.com/25641-composition-mine-what-do.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25640-can-someone-discover-piece.html Mon, 20 May 2013 09:04:50 GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1ZfMLN_NA The player claims that this is a prelude by Shostakovich, as my search in You-Tube shows otherwise. I guess it is a prelude wroted by a russian composer though. Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1ZfMLN_NA

The player claims that this is a prelude by Shostakovich, as my search in You-Tube shows otherwise.
I guess it is a prelude wroted by a russian composer though.

Thanks. ]]> Identifying Music DanE http://www.talkclassical.com/25640-can-someone-discover-piece.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25639-piano-concerto-orchestral-without.html Mon, 20 May 2013 02:37:05 GMT Hello, I am currently working on the Emperor Concerto by Beethoven. I am looking for the Orchestral music without the Piano so that I can practice. I'm not looking for the 4 hands music. I saw on youtube a recital of man who was playing to a pre-recorded Liszt Piano Concerto Orchestra. I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can find these kinds of recordings so that I can practice.

Thank you kindly,
g ]]> Orchestral Music gggmarquez http://www.talkclassical.com/25639-piano-concerto-orchestral-without.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25638-please-help-me-jeux.html Mon, 20 May 2013 00:42:50 GMT Hi! Okay, I know it's not the best etiquette to immediately start a new discussion as a newbie, so I apologize! I wouldn't do it if I weren't at my wit's end with this question.

Here's the background: I'm going to college in the US as a piano performance major in August, but I'm currently an expat in Australia with no teacher or musical connections. I thought that it would be a good idea to work on some pieces over the summer so I chose Jeux d'eau (among others) because I'd only played one Ravel prelude and it seemed a good entry-level piece to Ravel's body of work.

I've got most of it figured out but one section is completely confusing me: the 'le chant un peu dehors', measures 38 to 40. It sounds extremely dissonant in a way that doesn't fit the character of the piece. The left hand C#s clashes with the RH D naturals in the beginning of the measure. Then when the RH plays an E min broken chord, the LH plays a Cmaj7! It just sounds so weird to me after all the lovely augmented and minor stuff.

I've checked notes and listened to Youtube versions- but in the ones I've listened to, the left hand is so soft I can barely hear it. Can someone with better listening skills then me please tell me if it's meant to clash so strongly and I should just "cover it up" or if it sounds fine and I have some notes wrong? ]]> Keyboard Instruments Blue http://www.talkclassical.com/25638-please-help-me-jeux.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25637-music-equine-theme.html Mon, 20 May 2013 00:22:31 GMT In honor of the 150th anniversary of Saratoga NY racetrack, the Philadelphia Orchestra is holding a one-evening concert featuring music with an equine theme. I'm looking forward to it. Here's their lineup:

Gould - Flourishes and Gallop
Suppé - Overture to Light Cavalry
Newman - Selections from Seabiscuit
Williams - "Dartmoor 1912", from War Horse
Copland - Four Dance Episodes from Rodeo
Danielpour - SERENADE
Williams - The Horse (with film)
Gould - "Saratoga Quick-Step," from American Ballads
Rossini - Overture to William Tell

Can you think of anything they might have left out?

My only suggestion would have been the Jerome Moross' film score of the 1958 movie The Big Country. That's the music they made the cigarette commercial out of. BTW if you haven't seen The Big Country in widescreen/High Def/Bluray, you should.

Any other horsey music you think would have been appropriate? ]]> Classical Music Discussion Pyotr http://www.talkclassical.com/25637-music-equine-theme.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25636-composition-mine-what-do.html Sun, 19 May 2013 22:23:41 GMT This is an orchestral composition that I wrote for GCSE Music. This means that I'm a young musician and that I'm looking for inspiration for the future.

I am aware that this forum is full of classical aficionados, so if you've got this far, please have a listen to my work. As I have already decided on doing Music for A Level, I'm looking for ideas to improve and develop my compositions.

As many of you can probably tell from hearing this, my main influence in Music is Beethoven as I absolutely adore his work.

I hope you like it, and I'm grateful if you take your time to listen to it. Thank You very much.

Sincerely,
Budding musician. ]]> Classical Music Discussion Symphonical http://www.talkclassical.com/25636-composition-mine-what-do.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25635-emi-opera-libretto-site.html Sun, 19 May 2013 20:03:05 GMT Hi, long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm looking for a good site with English translations of librettos. I tried operaglass, opera guide, and the Stanford site but they don't seem to have what I'm looking for. I had been using the EMI Opera site. There you could log in and see a lot of different librettos. But that site or section of the site has disappeared. Could anyone make some suggestions? I would really like to find a translation of Donizetti's La Fille Du Regiment. ]]> Opera Tehzim http://www.talkclassical.com/25635-emi-opera-libretto-site.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25633-what-do-you-think.html Sun, 19 May 2013 18:41:45 GMT Glenn gould composed this piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZM4yxbE0ZE
"So you want to write a fuge"
What do you think about it? ]]> micheliszt http://www.talkclassical.com/25633-what-do-you-think.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25632-favorite-rachmaninoff-piano-concerto.html Sun, 19 May 2013 17:28:58 GMT The title says it all. My favorite is the 1st. I like the youthful fire it contains, but it still has those beautiful melodies in it. Plus, it was the first one I listened to. The title says it all. My favorite is the 1st. I like the youthful fire it contains, but it still has those beautiful melodies in it. Plus, it was the first one I listened to. ]]> Classical Music Discussion JohannesBrahms http://www.talkclassical.com/25632-favorite-rachmaninoff-piano-concerto.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25631-john-fields-piano-concertos.html Sun, 19 May 2013 16:48:03 GMT I believe I am right that THIS is John Field's Piano Concerto No. 2, H31, as written in three movements by the composer - unlike his THIRD concerto, for which he wrote only two movements (no middle slow movement).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ53kQKjxek

However, lots of albums - including Classic FM's own playlist - seem to describe this as Piano Concerto 3 instead, in the process implying that the SECOND concerto is the one with only two movements.

Your thoughts?! ]]> Classical Music Discussion tempo http://www.talkclassical.com/25631-john-fields-piano-concertos.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25630-music-challenge.html Sun, 19 May 2013 14:33:38 GMT Back in 2012, this board had a lengthy thread that resulted in a very long lists of composers ranked by votes within that thread. This thread is not a debate of that thread, but a challenge. The challenge is to see how far down that list you can go before you cannot whistle, hum, sing, or... Back in 2012, this board had a lengthy thread that resulted in a very long lists of composers ranked by votes within that thread. This thread is not a debate of that thread, but a challenge.

The challenge is to see how far down that list you can go before you cannot whistle, hum, sing, or whatever a tune from a composer on the list(basically anything to show that you know and can recall something from that composer.)

Please post the composer that tripped you up, should you wish to participate.

Here's the top 200 from that thread:

1. Bach
2. Mozart
3. Beethoven
4. Schubert
5. Brahms
6. Wagner
7. Haydn
8. Schumann
9. Handel
10. Mahler
11. Mendelssohn
12. Debussy
13. Dvořák
14. Chopin
15. Tchaikovsky
16. Stravinsky
17. Ravel
18. Prokofiev
19. Shostakovich
20. Strauss, Richard
21. Liszt
22. Bartók
23. Verdi
24. Monteverdi
25. Sibelius
26. Vivaldi
27. Berlioz
28. Bruckner
29. Saint-Saëns
30. Elgar
31. Fauré
32. Vaughan Williams
33. Rachmaninoff
34. Puccini
35. Purcell
36. Scarlatti, Domenico
37. Mussorgsky
38. Schoenberg
39. Grieg
40. Palestrina
41. Messiaen
42. Janáček
43. Britten
44. Rossini
45. Rimsky-Korsakov
46. Josquin
47. Berg
48. Bach, C.P.E.
49. Barber
50. Bach, J.C.
51. Gluck
52. Rameau
53. Scriabin
54. Ligeti
55. Webern
56. Nielsen
57. Bizet
58. Lully
59. Copland
60. Villa-Lobos
61. Weber
62. Telemann
63. Satie
64. Strauss II, Johann
65. Adams
66. Glass
67. Gesualdo
68. Donizetti
69. Ives
70. Biber
71. Bellini
72. Tallis
73. Buxtehude
74. Machaut
75. Victoria
76. Respighi
77. Hummel
78. Haydn, Michael
79. Byrd
80. Borodin
81. Reich
82. Pärt
83. Holst
84. Delius
85. Scarlatti, Alessandro
86. Gershwin
87. Corelli
88. Couperin, François
89. Dowland
90. Hildegard - 274
91. Penderecki - 263
92. Franck - 262
92. Wolf - 262
94. Schütz - 248
95. Smetana - 246
96. Walton - 239
97. Rott - 235
98. Hindemith - 234
99. Arnold - 230
100. Albéniz - 224
101. Varèse - 220
102. Schnittke - 217
103. Bax - 213
104. Dufay - 208
105. Boccherini - 200
106. Alfven - 197
107. Glazunov - 193
108. Massenet - 190
109. Charpentier - 186
110. Spohr - 156
111. Offenbach - 146
112. Stockhausen - 143
113. Boulez - 142
113. Takemitsu - 142
113. Vogelweide - 142
116. Perotin - 128
116. Szymanowski - 128
118. Poulenc - 125
119. Brian - 119
120. Novak - 114
121. Crumb - 113
122. Lassus - 110
123. Honegger - 105
123. Xenakis - 105
125. Chausson - 104
126. Zelenka - 102
127. Ockeghem - 101
128. Graun - 95
129. Lutoslawski - 93
130. Alkan - 91
130. Ippolitov-Ivanov - 91
132. Martinu - 88
133. Falla - 85
134. Gabrieli, Giovanni - 82
135. Cage - 77
136. Alwyn - 75
136. Rodrigo - 75
138. Gombert - 74
139. Albinoni - 73
140. Medtner - 72
141. Enescu - 64
142. Clementi - 62
143. Korngold - 61
144. Lalo - 58
144. Tveitt - 58
146. Paganini - 57
147. Kodály - 56
147. Piazzolla - 56
149. Gorecki - 53
150. Hasse - 52
151. Gounod - 51
151. Weiss - 51
153. Leifs - 50
154. Tippet - 49
155. Schumann, Clara - 48
156. Dussek - 47
156. Pachelbel - 47
158. Cherubini - 46
158. Gibbons - 46
160. Bach, W.F. - 45
161. Berio - 40
161. Glinka - 40
163. Bernstein - 34
164. Barrios - 32
164. Graupner - 32
164. Harbison - 32
167. Khachaturian - 31
167. Milhaud - 31
167. Schuman, William - 31
170. Granados - 30
170. Sorabji - 30
172. Frescobaldi - 28
173. Leonin - 26
173. Locatelli - 26
173. Mompou - 26
176. Ries - 24
177. Golijov - 23
177. MacDowell - 23
177. Pergolesi - 23
177. Rubinstein - 23
181. Dukas - 22
181. Farrenc - 22
181. Henze - 22
184. Canteloube - 21
184. Hovhaness - 21
186. Berwald - 20
187. Carter - 19
187. Harris - 19
189. Allegri - 18
189. Gubaidulina - 18
191. Arensky - 17
191. Balakirev - 17
191. Stamitz - 17
191. Vierne - 17
195. D'Indy - 16
195. Skalkottas - 16
195. Zemlinsky - 16
198. Parry - 15
198. Weinberg - 15
200. Abel - 14
200. Hartmann - 14
200. Wohlfahrt - 14
200. Zimmerman - 14 ]]> Classical Music Discussion EricABQ http://www.talkclassical.com/25630-music-challenge.html http://www.talkclassical.com/25629-change-one-thing-your.html Sun, 19 May 2013 13:59:17 GMT If you could go back in your life and change one thing about what happened to you, what you did, or what abilities you possess - well, would you? And if you would, what would it be?

There are a few things I would change if I could, but the one I'm going to mention is, I wish I hadn't given up playing the violin when I was at school. Just think how I'd be soaring now, instead of struggling!

Please don't reveal your life secrets or treat this too seriously. In fact, you can change two things if you like - one serious, and one decidedly trivial.

If I could change one trivial thing, it would be ... I'd like to have darker eyebrows and eyelashes. Not only would I save hundreds of pounds on mascara & eyebrow pencil, but I'd have been able to teach so much more effectively:

'You, boy, in the back row!' - and instead of raising my voice, it would be a quizzical eyebrow! :) ]]> Community Forum Ingenue http://www.talkclassical.com/25629-change-one-thing-your.html