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    Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the Humming Chorus in Madama Butterfly and "Bring Him Home" from Les Miz? I have a feeling it is not purely coincidental, as the two scenes are longing for someone missing. I'd like to know if anyone else is of the same opinion.

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    There could well be. I can't remember the Les Mis composers off hand, but their next musical was Miss Saigon, which is a remake of the Madam Butterfly opera... it must have really effected them.

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    I remember the following exchange in another forum... wish I could remember which one- and who the principals were (I'd like to give credit where it's due). It went like this:

    Someone asked why Andrew Lloyd-Weber seemed so lightly regarded in the classical sphere, since the poster asserted that his work was suffused with Puccini-quality melodies. Some wit responded that they accepted the premise-- but added that when Puccini used his Puccini-quality melodies, he was doing so for the first time.
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    Orgel, Madama Butterfly has been ripped off so many times, I wouldn't be suprised if Shoenberg (not the atonal guy) was influenced by this opera!
    When all the paint has been dried, when all the stone has been carved, music shall remain, and we shall work with what remains.

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    I saw Madama Butterfly a few weekends ago and I have to say I thought the same thing!!!! Then I remembered, the people who wrote Les Mis are also the people who are now writing a musical based on "La Traviata." Yes, I guess it's more than likely they ripped it off just a tad =)
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    Yes, a similarity. But Lloyd-Weber yanks at your heartstrings while Puccini gently plucks them. In this case, less is more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caronome View Post
    I saw Madama Butterfly a few weekends ago
    Geeez!! I thought she was dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caronome
    I saw Madama Butterfly a few weekends ago
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    Geeez!! I thought she was dead
    Indeed, Andante, but Caronome wrote this last year, in November 2007.

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    I must complain to my ISP slow is OK but this is ridiculous

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    Not at all.

    Besides, when she said that she saw Madama Butterfly, she did not precise if she saw her alive, did she? Otherwise, she could have seen her just before her passing away. A lot of things can occur, during a whole year, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alnitak View Post
    Not at all.

    Besides, when she said that she saw Madama Butterfly, she did not precise if she saw her alive, did she? Otherwise, she could have seen her just before her passing away. A lot of things can occur, during a whole year, I think.
    Hmmmmmm, sure can, such as Putrification

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    Default Humming Chorus & Bring Him Home (Les Mis)

    Absolutely - heard the Humming Chorus today on the radio and thought "Where have I heard this before" and suddenly realized, Les Mis ("Bring Him Home").

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Yes, a similarity. But Lloyd-Weber yanks at your heartstrings while Puccini gently plucks them. In this case, less is more.
    Absolutely. You just have to listen to the meretricious slush that is the "Music of the Night" and compare it with La Fanciulla del West, to realise that he who did it first did it best
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamascarlatti View Post
    Absolutely. You just have to listen to the meretricious slush that is the "Music of the Night" and compare it with La Fanciulla del West, to realise that he who did it first did it best
    how poetic

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    The music for Les Miserables was composed by Claude-Michel Schönberg, not Andrew Lloyd Webber.

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