Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Gustavo Dudamel

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    4,512
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Gustavo Dudamel

    What do you think about this elephant.

    I've watched short documentary about him yesterday evening and though he has some views on music that I tend to dislike I generally liked him, seems like very positive dude devoted to music.

    It's good to see that someone under 30 managed to become chief in important orchestra with big name like in good old times when you could be professor at age 26 (Tchaikovsky) and stuff.

    But the conducting. What do you think about his recordings? I've heard his Mahler 1 in parts and I will try to get whole thing. Also, should his recordings with various youth orchestras be taken seriously?

  2. #2
    Senior Member World Violist's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    3,335
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    10

    Default

    I think Dudamel has good potential. I find that what I've heard often "caricatures" the music in a similar way as late Bernstein occasionally. Yes, he has tons of energy and charisma, but I don't care for the way he uses it. I saw a TV broadcast of him conducting the VPO, with Dvorak 9 and some Ravel and some Bernstein. The Ravel was the best part of the program: Bolero (beautifully controlled) and then Pavane (my highlight of the program; very pure and stuff). The Dvorak was a mess... distorting some passages rhythmically, pulling stuff this way and that, underlining certain parts and destroying the whole structure generally.

    I've also heard bits of his Mahler 1 and really don't care to hear the whole thing. It was even worse than the Dvorak, what I heard.

    Not saying Dudamel is a bad musician (I don't want this to be a repeat of that Vengerov disaster), I just don't like his style.

  3. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    4,512
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Just listened to his Berlioz:



    Perhaps what WV wrote is true, but just like in conservative Dvorak you have to stick to "rules", there are no such boundaries in Berlioz and his weird works. Dudamel conducted it great (never hear this tuba note during marche au supplice, when brass is "laughing" at sentenced hero before), just like it should be IT WAS MADNESS... MADNESS? THIS... IS... BERLIOOOOOOOOOZ <gets kicked by Dudamel and falls into depths of tuba>.

    And I loved applause, unusually spontaneous and energetic, first time I got impression that people on audience were some real music enthusiasts, not geezers who have nothing better to do. Really strong applause + various cries of joy and satisfaction. But it's not that perfect, some ******** dared to cough.

  4. #4
    Newbies
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Orange County CA.
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Hi Gentlemen,
    I have had the privilege of singing under Gustavo Dudamel. I performed Ravel's Daphnis and Chloe with him 2 years ago. It was the fourth time I had performed the work. I sing with Pacific Chorale, in the Soprano section. Dudamel had the most refreshing and passionate approach in his interpretation while preparing the chorus. Outrageous performance!!! Absolutely physical~ I love him. Yes, he is a loose canon at times but I think that fire is needed in our genre... I want classical music to continue to inspire young people as well as seasoned individuals. He can reach across generations limitlessly. Anyway, my opinion only. I am new to the forum, so I shooting off my very first opinion!! He a joy to work with~ Randi Ann

  5. #5
    Moderator Huilunsoittaja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    3,785
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    168

    Default

    I heard him on the radio conduct the Rite of Spring with the Simon Bolivar Youth Symphony Orchestra, and it was brilliant. Perhaps that will help me to like Stravinsky more in the future, to hear such great performances.
    "Music is an art, and art is forever. Music should not succumb to fashion, which is passing and forgotten."
    Glazunov


    Join TC's Official Russian Composer Fanclub!

    Oh, and, here's my professional website!

  6. #6
    Newbies
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Orange County CA.
    Posts
    8
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Dudamel has fire, passion, and impeccable musicianship! He is fresh and not afraid to be original. He is great with Stravinsky and has a deep reverence for his art form. He makes the works kinesthetic not just intellectual!
    Thanks for responding to my thread~
    Randi

  7. #7
    Jeff N
    Guest

    Default

    I like listening to him, but I find him hard to watch. His motions are way too over-exaggerated and they just seem forced. Watching his arms jolt in and out like a robot and his fro flopping around is a little distracting. His sound is good, however, so that makes up for it.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    111
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I agree with Jeff. He's hard to watch. Kinda annoying. His interviews are mindless mumblings most of the time... but that may be because he's young and wisdom comes with age. He does make great music and works tirelessly. I wish him a lot of success.

  9. #9
    Newbies
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    9
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    He has thousands of fans and thousands of critics. I have read that they say a lot that he can be eaten by the media, I am a classic music rookie and don't understand that, and also i don't understand if either critics or praises are better for a young conductor or both or none and why. Can someone explain me that?

  10. #10
    Senior Member Itullian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    California
    Posts
    11,987
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default



    they'll hype anyone they need/want to.


  11. #11
    Senior Member kv466's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Hialeah, FL
    Posts
    2,582
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default


  12. Likes Polednice, sospiro, GoneBaroque liked this post

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 113
    Last Post: Aug-17-2020, 00:34
  2. Greatest conductors
    By Cortision in forum Conductors & Conducting
    Replies: 113
    Last Post: Jul-11-2017, 01:49
  3. Young Rising Stars - under 35
    By Air in forum Musicians
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: Oct-02-2011, 16:08
  4. Mahler No. 1 - Dudamel
    By Burrish in forum Classical Music Discussion
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: Dec-20-2009, 22:55
  5. Video of Dudamel conducting Shostakovich
    By Fsharpmajor in forum Classical Music Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: Oct-29-2009, 16:31

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •